Peter
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Post by Peter on Apr 6, 2008 16:27:09 GMT
The changing face/layout of the street is one that has and continues to intrigue me, from the conversion of Baldwins to maisonettes, the horrible sudden appearance of the arch on the side of the pub tothe new flats down the road from Roys. Do you think it's got better or worse over the many years? What did/do you approve or dislike? One of the many arguments, which i agree with, is the unlikelinesses of thegarage and factory being where they are being a residential street. I presume when Vernon's smoking shelter is done they won't just let them behind the bar surely? But the alternative - go outside, round the corner through the alley of the fake arch just to reach the shelter? Anyway, hopefully this can be an ongoing discussion about the changing face of the street over the years.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Apr 6, 2008 16:38:46 GMT
The even worse Tardis interiors than pre-1986 before they changed the Rovers, especially the factory like no one will notice.
Patsy
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Peter
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Post by Peter on Apr 6, 2008 17:09:47 GMT
It's the same with almost every soap, they've lost touch with reality so much it's made the shows a complete farce.
And the Rovers getting re-wallpapered, upholstered with new tap appliances, all in a day! Although haven't the toilets realistically always been in Ken's living room? (Well with the layout they should be). And we've seen the woman's loo a few times in the last year now, the size if it - well definitely a mini TARDIS in itself.
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Post by sallywebster on Apr 6, 2008 18:46:12 GMT
I much preferred the street before 1990 when they had the factory and community centre. Now I just feel there is too much in one small street. We had the cafe and Kabin on Rosamund Street so it was more realistic. I was counting the other day how many shops/businesses there are on Coronation St and Victoria St and it was 12 I could count (including the cab office and medical centre).
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Peter
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Post by Peter on Apr 6, 2008 18:55:50 GMT
12 - I was really interested in the talk about the old set in the "Episodes" thread (love that picture of the old set on the other side). I'm still trying to put it into perspective as to where it would've been today if they had kept it: clickey:
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Post by sallywebster on Apr 6, 2008 19:01:03 GMT
Yes. The twelve I thought of were; The Kabin, The Shop, factory, garage, rovers, salon, cab office, kebab shop, cafe, butchers, bookies and medical centre. I suppose we could include the builders yard, another example of a place that used to be a few streets away in the 1970s/80s. Didnt include the chippy as hasnt that closed down?
Me too Peter. I love talking about the old episodes/sets. Nick and I were trying to work it out where the old set was and Nick is almost certain he knows where it is.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Apr 6, 2008 19:03:32 GMT
Corrie started it with a Rovers which stretched across Rosamund Street and beyond. I'm sure that's what gave Sydney Newman the idea for the Tardis. LOL!
Patsy
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Post by sallywebster on Apr 6, 2008 19:05:33 GMT
We didnt really see that part of the outside of the Rovers on the every early eps going by the ones ive seen so perhaps they didnt realise. And if you look at the closing titles of the very early episodes where they move along every house and eventually get to the Rovers it does look like the Rovers is bigger than it actually is now.
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Post by Nick on Apr 7, 2008 11:16:45 GMT
If that picture is North at the top and the current street is just above the science museum..then the old set would have been along that railway viaduct running along the bottom of the pic...slighlty to the left of the pic...when we went in 1982 it was all derelict yards and things..it looksl ike it has all been redeveloped since then Peter have a butchers at my posts on the 'Corrie episodes thread' I think it spoils it when you know that all the businesses are in one area..it's not realistic you know its just the producers trying to make the set self contained and trying to have us believe Bills builders yard was Len's old one is ridiculous...and don't mention the viaduct at the side of the Rovers ..they must think we're stupid..when you see in the back yards its all open into the yards at the back..and on the first shot on the opening credits the viaduct isn't even on
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Apr 7, 2008 15:34:49 GMT
Yes that really hacked me off too. Len's yard was completely different and that wasn't even there before the Victoria Street development. Hey more building work Reet and the rest have been through!
I hate everything beong together. I've said before they copied EE. I've also said before there is no way a garage would have been allowed on a residential street.
Patsy
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Post by Nick on Apr 7, 2008 16:04:16 GMT
It was said that Len bought the yard in or around Mawdesley Street near to where Martha Longhurst lived
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Apr 7, 2008 16:22:34 GMT
Yep and it had a completely different layout and building, plus more room considering it was a studio set than this one.
Patsy
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Post by sallywebster on Apr 7, 2008 20:15:50 GMT
Yes. Mawdesley Street is the street behind Coronation Street. Martha apparently lived back to back with Elsie Tanner!
However it was also said in a 1976 episode that Len's yard was 3 street away so ?
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Apr 7, 2008 20:22:45 GMT
Didn't Len originally live in Mawdsley Street?
Patsy
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Post by sallywebster on Apr 7, 2008 20:26:03 GMT
No idea. He must have lived somewhere before moving into the Street in 1968 but I got the impression it was further afield than the next street. I know Minnie lived in Jubilee Terrace which was the otherside of the viaduct.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Apr 7, 2008 20:32:19 GMT
It was somewhere. LOL! Mawdsley Street rings a bell for something. It was more realistic. People would go and see their friends, not have them all live in one poxy street. Especially in this day and age when you make friends over the Internet or while travelling.
Patsy
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Post by sallywebster on Apr 7, 2008 20:38:40 GMT
Exactly. I hardly know anyone in my street that well, apart from to say hello too, apart from my next door neighbours.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Apr 7, 2008 21:18:29 GMT
Me neither. Everyone I went to school with no longer lives in the area either.
Patsy
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Post by Nick on Apr 7, 2008 22:23:21 GMT
I'm just waiting for Weatherfield town hall to burn to the ground then be rebuilt by the new flats so that Deirdre can go to work on the set ;D
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Post by sallywebster on Apr 7, 2008 22:28:25 GMT
LOL! Wouldnt be at all surprised
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Apr 7, 2008 22:36:02 GMT
LOL! Or in place of the medical centre.
Patsy
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Post by Nick on Apr 8, 2008 15:25:43 GMT
Then Gail would be out of a job.... ;D
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Apr 8, 2008 15:44:18 GMT
I thought her job was to stick her head in the sand.
Patsy
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Post by Nick on Apr 8, 2008 17:23:40 GMT
LOL ;D
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Post by pearly queen on Apr 8, 2008 20:39:47 GMT
I'm just waiting for Weatherfield town hall to burn to the ground then be rebuilt by the new flats so that Deirdre can go to work on the set ;D LOL! If Audrey, Bill and Betty move to Coronation Street, then the builders can just dig a big moat round the current set and pull up the drawbridge, it will be like bloody Ghormenghast!
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