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Post by Lane Kent on Jan 9, 2007 15:28:20 GMT
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Post by eithne on Jan 10, 2007 22:17:06 GMT
Okay, Episode Three... A really good episode I thought - once again. What a good start to this season we've had. Firstly Bree, who played a fairly minor role over all in tonights episodes. Orson's good side definitely came out tonight, as he reunited Bree with Andrew - though his speech about rage was interesting. Perhaps these are the first signs of why the US viewers seem to be so split over him - and whether he is a goodie or a baddie. I was surprised that Andrew has been selling himself, but I suppose he is on the streets now. Will be interesting to see how he settles back into life on Wisteria Lane. As for Danielle - she's back as well!  Susan's romantic weekend with Dougary Scott (Ian) was patchy, but overall fairly funny I thought. The whole "eleven men" thing has been done goodness knows how many times in other shows - however I was glad that he became her twelveth at the end. A twist with Mike and Edie though - and from what I've read about Episode Four, Edie's bitchy side is well and truly back!!! Austin and Julie are getting closer, and it could well be her that ends up with child going on the chemistry between herself and her neighbour tonight. I bet Jez liked the shirtless scene. I loved the whole idea of the science nerd not being able to change a fuse. Hilarious!!! I wonder if she will turn in to the bad girl Edie has predicted? Quite possibly. Next up is Lynette who bonded with Norah - quite a surprise really, though about time. I wonder what Tom will get up to now that he can venture away from advertising? Norah's jokes about there being varying degress of craziness were good as well. Gabby's storyline with John really came to a close in Episode Three - and I think it could well be the last we see of Jesse Metcalf in the series. I think they will give her a new love interest, as he has clearly chosen Ms Sinclair over Mrs Solis. It was good to see how he is doing since he left Wisteria Lane. Also though Gabby in the suitcase was brilliant. Overall I would say 8.5/10. Quite a good episode - and it should be interesting to see what everyone else thinks. |
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Post by Lane Kent on Jan 11, 2007 0:52:08 GMT
I didn't like it as much as the previous 2 but you can't have A*s every week. I'm too tired to comment tonight about episode 3 but I think I go with what your comments Eithne but I think I give it 7 out of 10. Overall very good and very funny but not quite as high as the previous 2. As to John you can perhaps see why I was skeptical about the Claire King story now when it claimed she couldn't wait to work with him. As like Eithne when I first saw this episode I thought, ah this could be the end of John. Certainly I would of thought for this season at any rate. The story was wrapped up nicely.
Episode 4 is fresher in my memory, now whether it was I missed the two minutes as Sky didn't turn over in time and then one of the cats acted up, or whether I was tired after watching the previous episode, whatever it was I didn't care for episode 4. Give it 6 out of 10 so will be very interested to see what people say. Believe it or not Gabby and Carlos seemed to be the highlight here. I don't want to spoil it for anyone as a lot of people probably haven't seen this episode yet. But their fighting was actually quite funny as were the new twists in their war. It provided much light relief.
There was a very moving scene with Susan at the hospital, but again if people haven't seen episode 4 yet I don't want to say too much but it had me almost in tears.
Bree and Lynette I was left thinking seen it all before. Lynette used to be a great favourite of mine, a real character you could relate to but towards the latter end of season 2 she could be really sanctomonious and bossy at times. Well this really came out in episode 3 and I actually momentarily felt sorry for Nora. Then in episode 4 inflicting her will on Parker and Tom - which of course had concequences for Lynette. Haven't we been here before? Her bossing everyone around, imposing her will and then facing her comeupance when it all goes wrong. By episode 4's end I was really bored and trying to remember if we had seen Nora this episode and if we hadn't we needed to.
Bree, again same old thing. Her taking the high and mighty ground, judging people and then being brought down to earth when she was told a secret, well not so secret, the cheerleaders are all gossiping, about Danielle. Yes again Bree has proved she has failed two of her children. As if we didn't know.
I also thought what should of been a very moving moment with Orson explaining to Bree what Andrew actually did on the street was drawn out in some way and lost its touchingness as it was just covering in graphic detail what our imaginations had already told us. It played an emotional scene in a comic tone and I think in this particular instance that was wrong. Sometimes drama can be turned into comedy but this particular scene didn't work for me at all and I think that is why. It shouldn't of tried to be dramady, it should of been just plain drama. There was enough comedy elsewhere in this episode to more than make up. By end of episode 4 I was sick of the Andrew on the street thing.
I should stress I am so glad Andrew and Danielle are back in the swing of things.
Oh for Edie just got to love to hate her and I'm sure episodes 3 & 4 were just holding ground getting us ready for episiode 5 "Nice She Ain't" which looks like it should be good.
Ian and Susan hit and miss in both 3 and 4. However redeemed itself with the most moving scene of episode 4 with Mike in the hospital, you'll know it when you see it. it might well be her last scene of the episode.
Roll on next week. I'm sure episode 5 will be good. Question is does the title "Nice She Ain't" refer to Nora or Edie or both? Then episode 7 "Bang" is meant to be one of the best if not the best episodes ever. Episode 8 and 10 also look very good. I really can't wait to see them.
All things considered 3 and 4 weren't bad and you can't expect perfection every week.
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Post by sallywebster on Jan 11, 2007 19:59:17 GMT
I watched episode 3 last night but not episode 4.
Episode 3 was excellent - I loved the stuff with Bree and Andrew and im glad he came home in the end. Like the scene with orsen and Andrew in the cafe.
I liked the stuff with Susan and her new boyfriend - when she told him she had had 9 partners before but lied as it was really 11. And then they argued. It was all quite amusing.
I also quite liked the stuff with Lynette and Nora.
Its a shame Mike has had to wake up really as I kind of like Susan with her new man.
Edie was underused in this episode again.
The stuff with john and Gaby was boring though, apart from when she was in her suitcase to hide from John's new fiancee. That was funny.
7/10
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Post by Lane Kent on Jan 13, 2007 16:50:16 GMT
Okay, episode 3, I'm now going to cheat and borrow a lot of what Jez wrote. 3 wasn't as good as 1&2 but was infinately better than 4. I still stick by 7 out of 10 for episode 3 and my brief comments regarding it in my previous post. I can't wait to see though others reactions to 4 as I may well of misjudged it for all the reasons I stated previously. I watched episode 3 last night but not episode 4. Episode 3 was excellent - I loved the stuff with Bree and Andrew and im glad he came home in the end. Like the scene with orsen and Andrew in the cafe. All the stuff with Andrew was excellent. He is going to be the real highlight of this season. Even if they use him modestly. I'm so glad he is home. I am glad also they have remembered Danielle exists still. I'm assuming we are supposed to think she has always been about and probably went to the wedding even if we didn't actually see her? I thought it was hit and miss but on the whole entertaining enough. Had some of the most comic moments of the episode that were needed. As to the 9 or 11 comment I'm not sure what I thought of that? Is that a lot of men for a 40 year old woman? I wasn't sure what it was saying about Susan and if I liked what it was saying about Susuan. I've always imagined underneath her clutzyness she has been a decent human being. She must ahve some kind of brains to be an author and illustrator. She was married to Karl for years but he did the dirty on her. I just pictured when we started Desperate Housewives, Susan was exactly that a Desperate exwife who was in her 40s having a midlife crisis but basically has a heart of gold even if her life is falling a part around her. So I don't really like the idea of Susan being a tart angle at all. Perhaps 11 men isn't too much for someone Susan's age but we must consider she was married for a long time so gives Susan little time. I'm definately an Ian in this category and I'm not ashamed to admit it. Naive perhaps but there you go. I just loved all this. However I got angry with Lynette though for the first time this season and this anger exploded over for me by episode 4. Lynette used to be my favourite, like she is yours now Jez. But latter end of Season 2 I got sick of her pre-judging people and interfeferng and bossing people around. Well in the first two episodes of Season 3 we didn't see that side and it was a bit like the old Lynette again. But the stuff with Nora, raised the head of the high and mighty Lynette again. But it was funny here and I actually felt slightly sorry for Nora. Don't despair Jez, there is a nice twist. Edie is always underused in my opinion. However she is very much in the next episode. So I forget how little she was used in episode 3. Perhaps watching two episodes in one go isn't such a good idea as you forget what happens where. The stuff with John and Gabby was boring, however the suitcase was hilarious. I find it ironic one of the most boring characters this episode, actually does prove one of the biggest comic highlights for episode 4. Liked the way the John story was wrapped up. Now what has the Austin actor been in before he is a bit cute? |
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Post by sallywebster on Jan 13, 2007 21:13:05 GMT
LOL Dont worry Lane, I dont mind you borrowing some of that!
Austin is so cute I agree. Im glad the John storyline has wrapped up - I take it we wont see him again?
Cant wait to see what the nice twist is with Mike/Susan. I prefer her with her new man as I said. Its kind of sweet that he has only been with 1 woman before!
I like Gabby in small doses, she can be irritating at times but so funny other times, like her reaction when Bree told her she wasnt going to sleep with Orsen until after they were married.
So episode 4 isnt as good as episode 1/2/3 then? I am planning on watching episode 4 this Wednesday on C4.
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Post by eithne on Jan 14, 2007 1:52:20 GMT
Okay... I videod Episode 4 and finally got around to watching it last night, so here is my verdict. There are likely to be big spoilers for those who haven't seen the episode yet: Bree - I totally agree with Lane that her reaction to Andrew's "street work" was ruined by the scriptwriters trying to make it comedy, when it should have just been plain drama. I liked the premise for Bree's story in the episode, but felt it was done really badly. I mean there should have been reference to the fact that Rex cheated on Bree, as she decided whether or not to tell the Doctor's wife what he was up to. It just felt two-dimensional and badly executed. The only good thing was that we discovered Danielle's secret affair with her teacher, though it might have been better as a cliffhanger. Also there should have been more emphasis on Andrew reajusting to life with Bree and Orson I feel. Susan - The only real reason for her staying at Ian's lodge was for Edie to work her magic on Mike, so most of her scenes had no real value to the storyline (just giving her a reason to stay). But I did like the tension between Ian and Susan towards the end of the episode when she attacked him verbally, over his delaying tactics. The scene with Mike was one of the best in the episode, I agree with you on that Lane. A good emotional one, with poor Susan looking quite rejected. Edie - Back to her evil best, changing the past to suit herself. One word - brilliant.  Gabby - I wasn't quite sure about the whole storyline with Carlos. Going out of her way to hurt him, selling his things etc. felt like it has been done way too many times before on other shows and in films. There wasn't any real plot development either with these two, apart from him throwing her out of the car. Lynette - This felt very repetitive of the character a few years ago, and was something I wasn't happy at all with. Nora didn't appear at all, as Lane said. Overall I'd give it about 7/10. But the indications are there that Episode 5 will be much better - so perhaps we can put this down to the build up of that episode. |
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Post by Lane Kent on Jan 14, 2007 21:18:21 GMT
So even though I missed bits, you pretty much had the same reactions to me bar Gabby. Believe me I don't think the Gabby and Carlos thing is that good however in light of much else in episode 4 I do think it provided much needed light relief.
Lynette's stories don't really look like they are going to get much better this season nor Gabby which is ashame.
Interesting what you have been saying Eithne about things we have seen all before. I've spent the last two years telling my husband in most episodes that's a total rip off of such and such. I think Desperate Housewives is a whole rip off and take off things that have been done to death but eeryone else, other than the basic mysteries each season, it seems limited in its own original ideas. However I guess that is part of the appeal and I still like it.
The Mike/Susan/Ian thing is just treading water. I quite like the mystery of Ian and the dilemma it has put Susan in. However we all know that unless something drastic happens, Mike and Susan will marry in the end either in in the last episode or when one of them decides to leave. Now there is a rip off in itself, Teri Hatcher (Susan) made her name in a series that was all about will they won't they get together. Only thing is they were got together too soon because the fans demanded it and wham bam ABC found themselves in the same situation as the they had with another series of theirs, Moonlighting. Get the leads or a couple together and the viewers loose interest. So ABC will not make the same mistake with Susan and Mike and drag their will they won't they relationship out forever more. I wish they wouldn't waste Teri Hatcher's talents though. She can do a lot more than goofy when she puts her mind to it. Susan must of been intelligent once? Although she isn't saying anythign publicly I'm sure she is getting bored. I can tell the tell tale signs. She got bored with 4th season Lois & Clark it was obvious, and now she doesn't seem to be putting her orr into DH so much.
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Post by eithne on Jan 17, 2007 22:53:30 GMT
It is difficult for any show to be original nowadays anyway, so I guess it isn't something limited to DH. No show on TV is totally original anymore I don't think. Can you name one? As for Teri, I'd say she will stick with the show for the money more than anything else. It gives her a good profile, and the ABC bosses will easily pay her megabucks to stay with the show. As for your point on the Mike/Susan love story's conclusion, they seem to be making Mike a bit darker and moodier at the moment which I've seen as an unpredictable trait. I mean he is a former criminal, who has been in prison. And from what I've read more is to be discovered about Mike later on this season. Meanwhile Ian is an rich, educated man who, so far, hasn't done anything bad and saved himself for his wife, and then Susan - so from that point of view they could be shifting away from Mike & Susan and towards an Ian & Susan partnership. |
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Post by sallywebster on Jan 17, 2007 23:16:13 GMT
Just watched episode 4. Wasnt as good as the first 3 episodes but it will still entertaining. The Lynnette storyline in this episode just seemed a bit daft and I didnt like the Carlos and Gaby stuff either.
I hope Susan stays with Ian - I prefer him to Mike.
I liked the scene with Bree and Andrew near the end.
Nice to see more of Edie in this episode.
5/10
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Post by eithne on Jan 17, 2007 23:51:54 GMT
More or less the same opinion as myself and Lane then, with this episode being weaker than the rest.
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Post by Lane Kent on Jan 18, 2007 13:18:59 GMT
It is difficult for any show to be original nowadays anyway, so I guess it isn't something limited to DH. No show on TV is totally original anymore I don't think. Can you name one? Agreed, not helped when you have soaps shoved down your throats 6 days a week. Ideas are bound to dry up. Well at the very least be repeated a lot quicker. Oh sorry I didn't mean to confuse, I don't think Teri will leave. In fact it may well be in her contract she has to stay until they get rid of her. Also it is thought she is the highest earner of the four. So no whatever scripts they throw at her Teri will have to stick it out. She has said herself this may well be her last major acting job and she is already now preparing for the time when DH runs out of steam and wants to focus her future career being behind the camera. She started a production company in the last year or two and it has recently been revealed has had a TV show idea picked up and is in the process of producing two films (which she won't be starring in). Prior to DH she was in development ideas with ABC for a good year to try and bring to TV various sitcom ideas then DH came along. So no she isn't going to walk anyway. She is grateful to ABC for her "career comeback", for the money (after her husband fleeced her of 50% of 20 years worth of earnings and it is debatable whether she is paying him support now even though he sort of works in The Closer) and the profile DH is offering her which will ultimately help her in her future life. Personally I would be more than happy at the moment for Ian and Susan as a proper item. However it is looking like a temporary thing. As Season progresses there is more to Ian than meets the eye and surely Mike has to get his memory back eventually? Ian is still considered a guest star and not in every episode where as even Orson is considered a major player. I don't think Ian is expected to last beyond this season. However I would be happy if they changed their minds. Even though I can't stand his forced English accent. I wish they had let them keep his Scottish accent. The tabloids are blaming Teri Hatcher, but I'm sure it is ABC who will of decided that. It wouldn't be the first time - nor the last I'm sure - where ABC have demanded that actors don't use their real accents as they have felt the audience wouldn't like it. |
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Post by Lane Kent on Jan 18, 2007 13:23:47 GMT
Just watched episode 4. Wasnt as good as the first 3 episodes but it will still entertaining. The Lynnette storyline in this episode just seemed a bit daft and I didnt like the Carlos and Gaby stuff either. I hope Susan stays with Ian - I prefer him to Mike. I liked the scene with Bree and Andrew near the end. Nice to see more of Edie in this episode. 5/10 I didn't even bother to try and rewatch it (because I did miss a good few minutes at the beginning). Especially after others had the same opinion. I started on episode 5 last night on E4. It looked really good. However my husband had been working late so by the time we got to sit and watch it, it was midnight. So we will probably catch up with it over the weekend sometime. |
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Post by sallywebster on Jan 18, 2007 20:58:29 GMT
I didnt see episode 5 on E4. Its too late for me!
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Post by sallywebster on Jan 18, 2007 21:00:07 GMT
Forgot to say I did see a promotion for episode 5 after episode 4 had aired on C4, and it looked good from the few scenes they showed!
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Post by eithne on Jan 19, 2007 21:28:38 GMT
I haven't seen episode 5 yet, but will get around to it shortly. It does look good I agree.
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Post by sallywebster on Jan 28, 2007 10:19:14 GMT
Episode 5 was good. I loved the scenes with Gaby and that bloke where she pretended to have sex with him with Carlos listening in the next room. And then he found out she wasnt!
The Mike/Susan/Edie stuff was ok but I prefer Susan with Ian. She was better in her scenes with him.
6/10
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Post by eithne on Jan 30, 2007 23:12:58 GMT
I have just seen episodes 6 and 7, and can honestly say they were brilliant. The Scavo family will never be the same again. Jez, you really should catch episode 7 on E4 tomorrow night. It is one of the best episodes EVER, and you won't regret the sleepy head the next morning! |
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Post by Lane Kent on Jan 31, 2007 13:26:04 GMT
I've seen episode 6 and that was brilliant. Episode 7 tonight.
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Post by sallywebster on Jan 31, 2007 21:33:46 GMT
Ive read the spoilers Eithne and it does look excellent, however my bed is calling so I will wait until next week.
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Post by eithne on Feb 1, 2007 21:35:49 GMT
Episode Seven definitely gets 10/10 from me.
It started off brilliantly with the hostage situation beginning, and everyone running for cover. Then we flashed back to the night before, and we found out how the situation developed leading to that moment.
I was shokced by those who were in the store at the time though, and with the suddeness of the first victim being shot. I thought Susan's romantic weekend with Ian being ruined was kind of sad though.
Gabby and Carlos growing closer was a good thing, and I think in the light of siege they could grow closer (for a little while). Lynette's life will be most changed by the siege though. As for Bree, I loved the way everyone went around to her house to watch it all unfold on television - all knowing that she would have treats served up.
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Post by sallywebster on Feb 1, 2007 22:08:54 GMT
Look forward to watching episode 7.
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