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Post by RitaLittlewood on Apr 1, 2005 22:14:54 GMT
I thought, since there's been a lot over the years and it tends to get lost, I'd start a separate one to post gripes. I'll start off and won't mention Kate Ford or Lucy-Jo Hudson once - yet.  Reet after Len died. Reet finding the biscuit tin on the table and running out to Don's taxi. That panic and fear is laughable. Reet in Blackpool. No matter how many times I watch, I've never been convinced Reet believes what she's saying. Perhaps if Barbara hadn't kept looking into the distance it might have worked. Reet drunk with Audrey and Liz in Alf's shop. Appalling. Reet's carbon monoxide collapse. Reet confronting Natalie about her affair with Ian Bentley behind Sharon's back. Reet and the hairy fleabag. She kept that mutt as much at arm's length as she does Norris and her pathetic acting after she got back from her cruise when the dog didn't want to know was irritating. She was more affectionate towards Schmeichel. Even in photos with the hairy fleabag it didn't look natural. Cannabis cakes. That was as bad as her rip-roaring drunk 11 years earlier. Reet's collapse in the shop during the Cilla storyline. I couldn't stop laughing at that because it was so awful. This might seem like bashing my fave Corrie star but it's just to show I don't always slag off Kate Ford and even great actresses can be crap. LOL! ;D Patsy |
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Post by Nick on Apr 2, 2005 1:45:12 GMT
I won't hear a word against St. Rita of Weatherfield
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Post by sallywebster on Apr 2, 2005 10:06:35 GMT
I thought, since there's been a lot over the years and it tends to get lost, I'd start a separate one to post gripes. I'll start off and won't mention Kate Ford or Lucy-Jo Hudson once - yet. Reet after Len died. Reet finding the biscuit tin on the table and running out to Don's taxi. That panic and fear is laughable. Reet in Blackpool. No matter how many times I watch, I've never been convinced Reet believes what she's saying. Perhaps if Barbara hadn't kept looking into the distance it might have worked. Reet drunk with Audrey and Liz in Alf's shop. Appalling. Reet's carbon monoxide collapse. Reet confronting Natalie about her affair with Ian Bentley behind Sharon's back. Reet and the hairy fleabag. She kept that mutt as much at arm's length as she does Norris and her pathetic acting after she got back from her cruise when the dog didn't want to know was irritating. She was more affectionate towards Schmeichel. Even in photos with the hairy fleabag it didn't look natural. Cannabis cakes. That was as bad as her rip-roaring drunk 11 years earlier. Reet's collapse in the shop during the Cilla storyline. I couldn't stop laughing at that because it was so awful. This might seem like bashing my fave Corrie star but it's just to show I don't always slag off Kate Ford and even great actresses can be crap. LOL! ;D Patsy ive seen all of those Reet scenes you mention Patsy, I thought she was very good after Len died, in that scene with Elsie and later Emily. The stuff im Blackpool - was that when she was talking to Alec and Bet at Breakfast in the hotel? I thought that was a good scene. The stuff with Natalie I also thought was brilliant. she said something like "by hell lady, ive met some hard faced bitches in my time, but you take the bloody gold medal" - LOL Go Reet! The others I agree with you with although cant remember some of them all that clear. |
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Post by sootycat on Apr 2, 2005 11:58:23 GMT
This is not a bad acting comment, more a bad props comment.
From an episode, years ago, after Stan died.
A very emotional moment for Hilda ( Which gets shown quite a lot )
She is sitting at the table and slowly opens Stans spectacle case.
A close up of her hands and her wedding ring. Which is brand spanking new and shiney, and has obviously never been worn before.
Sad to spoil such an episode with something like that.
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Post by Nick on Apr 2, 2005 12:25:51 GMT
maybe she treasured it and looked after it Sooty....that scene always has me in tears
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Apr 2, 2005 14:43:21 GMT
Nah, Jezziekins. Ted's death and Alan's even she was better. Len's was bad in comparison. Pat Phoenix was worse but Barbara was bad enough. She wasn't bad with Emily but awful with Elsie.
Not just Bet and Alec in the hotel (when they arrive I presume you mean). There was also breakfast, Bet alone and at the hospital. She was too wistful and when you say something you think is true, you say it as though you believe it not go all wistful and look into the distance as though you're remembering the past when you're meant to be talking about the present. That was bad and ruined what should have been excellent performances.
Er, no again with Natalie. By that time Reet had most of her fire removed by the writers so the confrontation wasn't a patch on what it could have been. Denise acted her off screen when it should have been the other way round.
I never noticed that about Hilda's ring, sooty. My mum's is less sparkling after all these years. Great scene though but I hate it when they put music on it. It ruins the mood.
Patsy
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Post by pearly queen on Apr 2, 2005 14:48:56 GMT
Keith Duffy particularly unconvincing.
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Post by Norris Cole on Apr 2, 2005 15:32:28 GMT
Have to disagree with pearly Queen, he's got much better, but your right he isn't brilliant.
Warren Baldwin whenever on scene.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Apr 2, 2005 20:24:54 GMT
I have to agree with you both, pearly queen and Alex. Yes, Keith has improved. But that was only during last year. Up until then he was almost as bad as Adam Rickett and Kate Ford.
Patsy
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Post by sallywebster on Apr 2, 2005 20:45:40 GMT
Nah, Jezziekins. Ted's death and Alan's even she was better. Len's was bad in comparison. Pat Phoenix was worse but Barbara was bad enough. She wasn't bad with Emily but awful with Elsie. Not just Bet and Alec in the hotel (when they arrive I presume you mean). There was also breakfast, Bet alone and at the hospital. She was too wistful and when you say something you think is true, you say it as though you believe it not go all wistful and look into the distance as though you're remembering the past when you're meant to be talking about the present. That was bad and ruined what should have been excellent performances. Er, no again with Natalie. By that time Reet had most of her fire removed by the writers so the confrontation wasn't a patch on what it could have been. Denise acted her off screen when it should have been the other way round. I never noticed that about Hilda's ring, sooty. My mum's is less sparkling after all these years. Great scene though but I hate it when they put music on it. It ruins the mood. Patsy I'll have to rewatch the episode with that scene with her and Elsie. I was referring to them at breakfast when she said she knew what Len would have and Bet asked if Len has brought her there and Reet said no. Cant remember much else about it now. |
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Apr 2, 2005 20:53:55 GMT
Ah that's 2 different scenes. Breakfast was saying she knows what Len would have. Kippers. Then later with Reet and Bet by a huge window. Reet said she was going for a walk and Bet said she'd join her and asked if Len had brought her to which Reet replied she got the train up because Len's too busy. But none of that was believable due to the way Barbara delivered it.
Patsy
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Post by sallywebster on Apr 2, 2005 20:59:40 GMT
Ah that's 2 different scenes. Breakfast was saying she knows what Len would have. Kippers. Then later with Reet and Bet by a huge window. Reet said she was going for a walk and Bet said she'd join her and asked if Len had brought her to which Reet replied she got the train up because Len's too busy. But none of that was believable due to the way Barbara delivered it. Patsy Been so long since I watched that I didnt realise it was 2 scenes. I have that on one of my videos from the Plus screenings so will have to dig that out too. |
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Apr 2, 2005 21:21:51 GMT
I've had it since 1989 ands have watched that, as well as Alan's release from prison and the attempted murder squillions of times. I'm surprised the tape never wore out. LOL! Maybe Blackpool was down to the director or script which told her to play it that way. Won't get an answer from Barbara about it that's for sure. But whether it was script, director her Barbara it was awful. She could have been so much better. It was a very disappointing last few eps of Alan after all that wonderful acting before it.
As for Len's death, you must also remember up until then, Reet never had much heavy drama to do. It was comedy, which Barbara's always excelled at, even pre-Corrie. It was during to the Alan storyline she really came into her own and began to shine as a great dramatic actress too. She also did drunk better during 1989 because it was more subtle and not rip-roaring so was believable.
Patsy
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Post by sallywebster on Apr 3, 2005 10:38:48 GMT
I've had it since 1989 ands have watched that, as well as Alan's release from prison and the attempted murder squillions of times. I'm surprised the tape never wore out. LOL! Maybe Blackpool was down to the director or script which told her to play it that way. Won't get an answer from Barbara about it that's for sure. But whether it was script, director her Barbara it was awful. She could have been so much better. It was a very disappointing last few eps of Alan after all that wonderful acting before it. As for Len's death, you must also remember up until then, Reet never had much heavy drama to do. It was comedy, which Barbara's always excelled at, even pre-Corrie. It was during to the Alan storyline she really came into her own and began to shine as a great dramatic actress too. She also did drunk better during 1989 because it was more subtle and not rip-roaring so was believable. Patsy ive watched the court case and release from prison and the tram loads of times as rhat was on the 1989 video. I liked the lines between Jenny and Rita in that video, her reaction when she thought Alan was going to jail and then she ran upstairs. Wish id tape more of that storyline now though. The Alan and Reet storyline took quite a long time on screen didnt it really, since he was in it from January 1986 so nearly 4 years by the end. Cant imagine them doing it that long these days not with 5 eps a week. Yes it was mainly comedy with Mave in the Kabin up until then, she did drunk in the Christmas 2003 episode which I think you said you liked. |
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Post by sootycat on Apr 3, 2005 11:49:12 GMT
Bad acting - Basically any scene with Adam Ricketts in.
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Post by Jade on Apr 3, 2005 12:58:45 GMT
Bad ActingIn corriecurrently is an awful long list:
Helen Worth (Gail) i cant stand her i have always thought that she has been an appaling actress exteremely wooden,
Tina OBrien (Sarah) used to be a brillant actress, but since the whole Todd storyline I personally think that she has been appalling, so OTT and unbelieveable,
Anne Kilbride (Deirde) I have always thought that she has been an appalling actress, so unbelieveable, wooden and OTT,
Bill Roache (Ken) I have always believed that he has been a shocking actor, so wooden and fake, the only reason that he is still in Corrie is that they cant get sack him, because he is the only 1 who has been in it since the beginning,
Ryan Thomas(Jase) I have always thought has been a very poor, weak, wooden and fake actor shows and feels no emition @ all,
Kate Ford(Tracy) I have always thought (like a lot of us here) has been very fake and wooden,
Danny Young (Warren) no wonder they sacked him there is only one word for his acting shocking,
Nikki Sanderson (Candice) What can I say? Appalling all she does is stand and try and look pretty,
Sean Wilson (Martin) Very wooden, ive never believed that he could act,
Liz Dawn (Vera) Absoutely appalling cant act to save herself, goddness only knows how she is still in the show she drives me round the bend.
There are also a few more actors who I cant stand:
Bill (Jack),
Jack P Sheperd (David),
Bill Ward (Charlie),
Jimmi (Dev),
and finally Johnny Briggs (Mike).
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Post by Jade on Apr 3, 2005 13:03:44 GMT
God! I feel better after that rant! LOL. I know wot u are all thinking, but I do actually like some of the actors on corrie. I love: Alan Halshall (Tyrone), Jenni (Fizz), Antony (Kirk), Antony Cotton (Sean), Sue Cleaver (Eileen), Steven Arnold (Ashley), Julia (Claire), John (Fred), Sally Lindsay (Shelley), San Aston (Chesney), Wendi Peters (Cilla), Jane Dansen (Leanne), Rupert Hill (Jamie), Bradley Walsh (Danny), Debra Stephson (Frankie), Samia Ghadie (Maria) and there are many other favourites on the street who I think are terrfic actors there is just simple too long a list. |
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Apr 3, 2005 13:54:15 GMT
ive watched the court case and release from prison and the tram loads of times as rhat was on the 1989 video. I liked the lines between Jenny and Rita in that video, her reaction when she thought Alan was going to jail and then she ran upstairs. Wish id tape more of that storyline now though. The Alan and Reet storyline took quite a long time on screen didnt it really, since he was in it from January 1986 so nearly 4 years by the end. Cant imagine them doing it that long these days not with 5 eps a week. Yes it was mainly comedy with Mave in the Kabin up until then, she did drunk in the Christmas 2003 episode which I think you said you liked. I know but it was just a few hours less than Richard only better because it wasn't rammed down our throat 5 times a week. Yes. Her drunk at Christmas 2003 was tipsy so it worked and it was funny. Patsy |
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Apr 3, 2005 14:05:39 GMT
That's quite a list, Bruno! I agree with you about some of them. Bill Roache and Eileen Derbyshire have always been awful and very wooden. Never liked Ken or Emily much because of that. At last someone who agrees with me about Nikki and Tina! ;D Though I've always thought Tina was bad. It's all that Jerry Springer guest-type acting with the hand, jiggling the head and leaning forward to shout like trailer trash do on there that she and Nikki do. And now Rosie's doing it! They also wouldn't get weirdo fan mail if they set an example to youngsters and stopped getting their kit off every five minutes. Is that their only talent? Must be since it isn't acting. LOL! I expect when Lane sees you've listed Johnny Briggs she'll have a few things to say.  Liz Dawn used to be good but over the years she has got bad, I agree with you there. I used to love Vera but now all she does is pull faces. I don't agree about Debra Stephenson. I think she's beena huge disappointment after Frankie being touted as a bitch with all thet pre-show publicity. I never saw her in Bad Girls but she's very wooden in this. Martin I also liked in the old days but again he's gone awful. Patsy |
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Post by Jade on Apr 3, 2005 14:29:49 GMT
Yea! I totally agree with you about Nikki and Tina! I mean come on! Wot w****s! Sorry but there is no other word for it! It makes me soooooo angry as they give women every where a bad name! Yea, I mean Im not saying it makes it right or anything like that, but they bring it all on theirselves. I mean its not the kinda they that you want to watch when you are having your tea is it? I mean come on have some self repsect, I mean when Sarah slept with Jason that was replusive! And im not just saying this to be bitchy or anything, but they are not even that pretty either of them! They are just sticks with so much slap on its unbelieveable and how stupid do the pair of them look with all that fake tan? They are twigs! Sorry Lane! Please dont kill me! Im sorry, but its me opipion! LOL. Well, I personally dont mind Eileen (Emily), that much, but... I will admit that she is vwry wooden. |
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Post by Jade on Apr 3, 2005 14:33:33 GMT
Yea, well I like Debra, I do Personally believe that she is a really good actress, but lets face it since she joined the street, she hasnt really had any real storylines has she? Expect bossing Vera about and arguing constantely with Leanne. Yea, wot else I forgot to say was that the only reason Tina and Nikki are in Corrie are because they are appartently babes it has nothing to do with their acting ability which frankely they dont have any of. God! I feel better after that rant! LOL. Soz, if Im boring any of u guyz. |
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Apr 3, 2005 15:29:32 GMT
I'm sure Lane won't kill you. They haven't made it possible yet to throttle people down phone lines. LOL! Oh yes, I'd forgotten the fake tan. I mean, it's winter in the grim north and they look like they've just got back from the Caribbean. Even Shelley and Charlie never had such deep tans! Nikki and Tina will cringe when they're older at all these photos. Are they that hard up? Shouldn't waste it then. The acting profession isn't a very secure one. What will they do when they leave if they don't get any work except pose half or completely naked? They want to stop weirdo fans, they should get some respect for themselves and stop doing that. They'll never be taken seriously as actresses all the while they strip. Even Kate Ford has done some posing. Not like them but they're meant to be sexy pics. Nothing could make her look even remotely sexy. And we know she can't act her way out of a wet paper bag. Yes, looks over talent all the time. Look at Adam Rickett. Okay, so Warren Jackson was on the wooden side and not as much of a pretty boy. But AR couldn't act either. He was so wooden he should have gone up in the factory fire! Casting should be about whether or not someone can act not how they look to get people your age tuning in. Besides, there's lots of good-looking people out there who can act too but somehow get overlooked.
Agreed about Frankie given bugger all to do. Maybe that's why I've been disappointed with her. If she was given something meaty to show what she can do, she might not be so bad.
Years ago (1992 I think it was) Emily had a breakdown but you know, Eileen did it MUCH better than Barbara Knox when Reet had hers.
Patsy
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Post by Nick on Apr 3, 2005 15:31:44 GMT
Blimey bruno..you didn't half vent your spleen...there aren't really any ACTORS i don't like (A few CHARACTERS I'm not keen on..but you can't like everyone....The only one i would critisize is bruce Jones..He's good at Comedy,but lets himself down when he tries to be serious or sad
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Apr 3, 2005 15:57:24 GMT
Soap, with its no rehearsals and so many eps, really shows who can and can't do whatever's thrown at them, doesn't it? Bruce hasn't been given much heavy stuff though when Les was set up by Mick that wasn't that good.
Patsy
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Post by sallywebster on Apr 3, 2005 15:57:56 GMT
I know but it was just a few hours less than Richard only better because it wasn't rammed down our throat 5 times a week. Yes. Her drunk at Christmas 2003 was tipsy so it worked and it was funny. Patsy Found the tape with that episode on, yes it was the first scene when they were at breakfast, then 2 scenes in between and another scene with Reet and Bet having Coffee. I can kind of see what you mean about her acting in that scene. Great episode though, I liked the scenes with Alf and Audrey too when it all went wrong with them moving house and the Duckworths going for dinner at the same hotel. Shame Jenny was only in 1 scene. Also watched another episode on the same tape with Alan, Jenny and Rita - this was from 1986 and Jenny didnt want anything to do with her dad. Yes she was drinking Sherry not Voddy though by the sound of it  |
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Liz Dawn used to be good but over the years she has got bad, I agree with you there. I used to love Vera but now all she does is pull faces. I don't agree about Debra Stephenson. I think she's beena huge disappointment after Frankie being touted as a bitch with all thet pre-show publicity. I never saw her in Bad Girls but she's very wooden in this. Martin I also liked in the old days but again he's gone awful. 