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Post by Lane Kent on May 26, 2008 16:30:37 GMT
While the UK have 7 episodes to go of Season 4, which look like they won't be shown until the Autumn. US, Canada and Ireland at the very least have finished Season 4. Many other countries are well on their way to finishing as well. So here are the first few spoilers available for Season 5.
---------------------------------------- The big news of Season 5 is the cast clear out. Some are guarenteed to return, several others are out the door and there are still a couple with uncertainties over their heads.
The Following Information has been gathered from various sources, most notably USA Today. USA Today have ran at least two articles on the cast and Season 5. I will try and re-locate them and post them in this thread along with any other Season 5 spoilers as they come out.
Those Definately Returning For Season 5 Teri Hatcher (Susan) Felicity Huffman (Lynette) Marcia Cross (Bree) Eva Longoria Parker (Gaby) Brenda Strong (Mary Alice Young) Dana Delany (Katherine) Doug Savant (Tom Scavo) Shawn Pyfrom (Andrew Van de Kamp) Kyle MacLachlan (Orson Hodge) Gale Harold (as yet un-named re-occuring character) Yet to be cast actor (Preston Scavo) Yet to be cast actor (Porter Scavo)
Expected To Return but unconfirmed Ricardo Antonio Chavira (Carlos Solis).He did not feature in the Season 5 setup at the end of Season 4, however there have been no reports suggesting he is leaving, but there have been reports suggesting he is staying
The characters of Parker Scavo and Penny Scavo, but they will be re-cast.
Fates uncertain
Nicollette Sheridan (Edie).There has been much speculation for months now that Edie's time on Wisteria Lane was coming to an end. Indeed she was disowned by all the housewives in episode 15 of the 17 episodes of season 4 and was not featured in the 2 hour season finale at all. Nicollette has repeatedly denied that she is leaving. Marc Cherry and the other producers of DH remained tight lipped, although Cherry did hint that Edie would go too far and have to leave. Finally an ABC exec let slip at the ABC Upfronts in Mid May that he expected Edie to be causing mayhem next season. Cherry has more recently said that Edie will be back on Wisteria Lane in "a few years time." Based on the Season 4 finale, you can make up your own mind what that means? It is thought that if Edie does return to Wisteria Lane her role will be much reduced.
James Denton (Mike Delfino). Due to the finale of Season 4, his fate is very uncertain. The actor himself has confirmed that he won't know until Mid June. Meanwhile he has told his agents to look for work for him and has said he is considering all offers. Even if Mike Delfino was to return to Season 5, it is likely that it could be in a reduced capacity. However part of Season 5's mystery could be taken up in asking the question "what happened to Mike?" The writers will somehow have to explain one way or another why Susan is in the situation she is in at the end of Season 4 and where Mike vanished to? It is worth noting that there has been a major backlash in the states, to the suggestion that Mike may not feature in Season 5, so who knows if that will influence the writers' hands
Actors Not Returning in Season 5 Joy Lauren (Danielle Van De Kamp). The actress Joy Lauren is off to Columbia University, so will not be returning to the series.
Andrea Bowen (Julie Mayer).There were much tears on the set when it was revealed that Andrea had been axed and Julie would not feature at all in Season 5. It is even rumoured that Teri Hatcher begged producers to save her screen daughter. Even though Julie won't be in Season 5, Marc Cherry has apparently told Andrea that he hopes to bring Julie back at some point in the future
Lyndsey Fonseca (Dylan Mayfair).Lyndsey has already got work lined up for a TV pilot
Nathan Fillion (Adam Mayfair). Nathan is starring in a new TV pilot for ABC.
Rachel Fox (Kayla Huntington/Scavo).Kayla may return but Rachel Fox won't be. Rachel has a lot of projects going on right now including launching a music career.
Zane Huett (Parker Scavo).Role to be re-cast, but Zane may appear in flashbacks.
Brent and Shane Kinsman (Porter and Preston Scavo). Roles to be re-cast, but the twins may appear in flashbacks. Brent and Shane meanwhile have been guesting on other shows and are looking to Disney and Nickelodeon for future work.
Darien and Kerstin Pinkerton (Penny Scavo).Role to be re-cast.
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Post by Lane Kent on May 26, 2008 16:51:43 GMT
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Post by eithne on Jun 13, 2008 22:58:27 GMT
I hope Jamie Denton comes back and really doubt that he'll be axed. I am gutted that Joy Lauren, Lindsey Fonsesca and Andrea Bowen have all been axed as well and I hope that they do return in the future.
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Post by Lane Kent on Jul 18, 2008 14:40:08 GMT
Lots of Season 5 news now pouring in.
Allegedly the cast went back to work on the 7th July 2008.
Season 5 will have 24 episodes and will begin airing in the US on Sunday 28th September 2008.
The remaining 7 episodes of Season 4 will air in the UK from August and run straight into Season 5 without a break. Although unconfirmed, it is being said that Channel 4 and E4 will air the episodes 3-10 days behind the US, i.e. Channel 4 will be 10 days behind and E4 3 days. If this is the case I think the most likely launch date for Season 5 in the UK will be the 8th October 2008 on Channel 4. However we shall have to see. Currently channel 4 are re-showing 2 episodes a day from Season 2. If this runs into Season 3 and the 10 episodes they have already aired of Season 4, this will take them to the end of August. Ready to pick up the episodes they have missed and go nicely into Season 5.
Ireland are going to show Season 5 from January 2009.
Australia will show Season 5 from February 2009 (apparently).
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CASTING NEWS
Whether it be public opinion, cast/crew pressure or just a general change of heart on the producers part, but to the relieve of many James Denton will be back. Although this was not always certain (see article below). It is unclear in what way his character will be returning as it is definate he and Ssuan are no more. However they share custody of their son MJ so this no doubt does leave the door open for regular interaction between the characters if the story requires. Also all indications suggest that Nicollette Sheridan's role in Season 5 will be bigger than previously indicated (although it was always almost certain that she would be back in sorm form). In fact she could be tied up with some of the mystery.
As previously stated, Andrea Bowen had been told that the door would be left open for her to return in later seasons. However it is now being suggested that she might be bought back very occasinally in Season 5 (see article below).
Neal McDonough is joining the cast of Desperate Housewives as a series regular. McDonough is coming on as a new love interest for Edie! Source (amongst many):http://www.michaelausiello.com/2008/06/27/semi-exclusive-neal-mcdonough-gets-desperate-plus-random-stuff/. Indications pouring in are that he will play her husband and in the opening episode of Season 5 will try and buy back her old house on Wisteria Lane (as she has been living elsewhere for the past 5 years). Also she may have bitten off more than she can chew as he may have a history of obsessive issues with women. It is being suggested that he will be called Dave.
Gale Harold was seen in the closing seconds of season 4 kissing Teri Hatcher's character Susan. Well he will be returning in Season 5 (still some conflict on what the character will be called). He apparently will be in the series in a re-occurring capacity. It is unclear at this stage whether he and Susan are just lovers or actually married.
Some indications suggest that one of the new males may be a bigimist.
Bob and Lee will be back as occasional characters in Season 5.
CHILDREN CAST:
The Scavo children are to be series regulars.
Porter and Preston Scavo - now played by Charles and Max Carver
Parker Scavo - now played by Joshua Moore
Penny Scavo - now played by Kendall Applegate
Maynard/MJ Delfino will be a re-occuring character. I currently don't have a name for the actor but he has been cast.
No news on Benjamin Hodge.
There are now spoilers springing up everywhere for the first two episodes of Season 5, many at this stage are unconfirmed, so I will leave this update with just the following news article from E! Online.
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Post by stix on Jul 19, 2008 2:30:39 GMT
can't wait
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Post by Lane Kent on Aug 31, 2008 18:45:31 GMT
Contrary to what was previously said Joy Lauren is expected to return as Danielle in Season 5. How long she stays is not so certain but she is thought to return to Wisteria Lane in Episode 3 with her new husband and son Benjamin. Yes that is right, Ben has been with Danielle. This will explain why there has been no casting information on Benjamin. and little else sifting through about him. It would seem that sometime in the last 5 years Danielle got her act together, got married, became domesticated and reclaimed her son. As a result relations between mother and daughter are not good. Source: Zap2It's Korbi TV
MJ Delfino is played by Mason Gale Cotton
Gabrielle's older daughter, Juanita, who was briefly seen in the 4th season finale, has been recast; she will now be played by Madison Delagarza. Her younger daughter Celia will still be played by Daniella Baltodano.
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Post by Lane Kent on Oct 3, 2008 17:27:50 GMT
Okay my apologies for not bringing you more spoilers. Truth is I'm trying to avoid them myself other than superficial uncomfirmed ones. I was disappointed that I knew the twist at the end of Season 4 so I'm determined not to let that happen in Season 5. So after this post I will not be posting for a while in this thread (although still will in the promo/schedule thread) unless I really find something out by accident. However feel free to post anything you find out.
Below is mostly confirmed spoilers, first with a roundup of character updates, then followed by sourced information. However do bear in mind that information is subject to change.
----- This information is culled from a number of places, a lot of the time the information comes from more than one place however the key places are Sources: Kristin on E!Online, ABC promos, ABC Press Releases, USA Today, TV Guide, The Ausiello Files
Okay I'm going to assume if you have read this thread so far you know that Season 4 ends 5 years in the future. It is official that Season 5 continues from that point with flash backs to let us know what happened in the entwining years. Show creator Marc Cherry and others on the production team have said it was a way to re-set the characters, as some of them had wound up in a potential rutt. So by moving the show 5 years they were placed in different situations and they could start a fresh.
According to Cherry he had wanted to move the series 8 years but had changed his mind because he wasn't sure how his actresses' would feel about being made to look much older. As it happens with the exception of Gaby, Lynette and some of the men, the others don't look 5 years older and actually look better than they ever did - particularly Susan. Oh well Hollywood.
Marc Cherry has also said he hasn't ruled out sending the series back to before the events of the first season in some of the later seasons. But for now Season 5 is firmly in the future.
Julie Mayer There was an outcry by fans and critics when it was announced that actress Andrea Bowen had been fired. Even Teri Hatcher (Susan) was reported to have gone and pleaded with prducers to reconsider. A few weeks ago in media interviews Marc Cherry confessed that they were desperately trying to find a way to bring the character of Julie back, how people on the show loved Andrea and how close she was to Teri. Well good news last week it was announced that Julie will bounce back to Wisteria Lane in episode 8 of the new season. She will be in a guest capacity so we don't know how often she will feature.
Julie is now 23, a college graduate who has fallen in love with her middle-aged former professor. Reports are suggesting Susan is happy until she discovers he is already thrice married.
Karl Mayer Is known to be appearing in episode 2.
Danielle Van de Kamp Actress Joy Lauren is another who has had a reprieve. She will be guest starring in at least two episodes. We first see her in episode 1 in a flash back sequence involving Benjamin. She will then be seen again in episode 3 when she arrives on Wisteria Lane now in her early 20s with her Jewish husband. It is quite apparent that there is a lot of bitterness between Bree and her daughter.
Brent and Shane Kinsman These young actors played Porter & Preston Scavo for the first four years. They will make an appearance in a flashback sequence in episode 1 at least.
Edie Britt & Dave Williams The last anyone on Wisteria Lane saw of Edie, was when she was banished on Mother's Day (Season 4 episode 15: Mother Said). In Desperate Housewives terms that is 5 years ago now. It would appear she didn't sell her house, but rented it out. However in the Season 5 premiere much to the shock of all, she returns and moves back into her house. Furthermore she brings her own surprise. When Lynette spreads word of her return, the women confront Edie and she declares that she has a husband now - Dave Williams - to which Susan replies "Whose!"
Outwardly Dave seems charming and able to control Edie's bitchy behaviour which causes Lynette to declare that the housewives love him. However is it Edie or Dave who wanted to live on Wisteria Lane? It soon becomes apparent to the viewer that Dave is this year's mystery. Behind the outward niceness lies a secret. By profession Dave is a motivational speaker but inside he is fulll of pent up rage and has come to Wisteria Lane with one thing in mind, revenge on a particular housewife?
The question I have is where does Edie fit into her husband's motives. Is she a pawn, is she the one he has been after or is she a willing participant?
Mrs McClusky Mrs McClusky is 5 years older but is as sharp and as nosy as ever. Early in Season 5 she will become suspicious of Dave Williams and perhaps becomes the first on Wisteria Lane to realise that something isn't right? Dave will also quickly realise that Mrs McClusky is on to him and will resort to all sorts to get her off his back including allowing the neighbourhood to think she has gone senile. It will require her sister (rumoured to be played by Lily Tomlin to come to Wisteria Lane to rescue her from a mental institution - if reports are to be believed.
Is Mrs McClusky the housewife Dave Williams is hunting down or is she just getting in the way of his real purpose? She is one of the two main favourites of viewers who have been keeping up with spoilers.
Susan & Mike Delfino Season 5 opens with a tragic wham which I'm not going to give away and I don't really know much about it myself other than Mike and Susan are at the centre of it. Apparently it was quite a shock for US viewers who weren't expecting it as it literally kicks off the whole season. After episode 1, a good portion of US viewers are asking if Susan is the housewife Dave Williams is after? While others point out that would be too obvious. (Although didn't Julie point out that Dylan wasn't Dylan in the very first episode of Season 4?) Susan could of course be caught in her own mini mystery or a storm in a teacup?
You are kept waiting for most of episode 1 to find out what happened to Mike (is he dead or alive) and why Susan and he are no longer together. I won't spoil it at this point. As to Susan, the opening moments of the Season have impacted her entire life. She is guilt ridden, living her life for the moment, and detached herself from love and no longer desperate for love.
When Cherry said he wanted to reset the series, the character of Susan has definately been reset. In the early years she had been popular for being clumsy, adorable, desperate for love, gifted (her childrens' books) and yet still intelligent (as she investigated the truth about Mary-Alice etc). However over the years people found the clumsiness predictable, instead of adorable she had become irritating and most of all rather stupd. According to Marc Cherry even Teri Hatcher had felt enough was enough and was sick of playing a character so emotionally needy, so while at heart Susan will still be Susan, expect to see a more evolved Susan and there will be a lot of differences to her character.
Jackson Hart We met him in the final moments of Season 4 kissing Susan, however we knew nothing about him, not even his name. Well we will soon learn in the opening episode of Season 5 that Susan hired him as a painter for her house four-and-a-half months before and he quickly became her toy thing. Think Gabrielle and John here without the added problem of a husband, so there is no cheating going on. Susan makes it quite plain to him all she wants from him is sex and she refuses to introduce him to her friends or even her son or let him spend the night. Unfortunately for Susan, Jackson isn't satisfied with this anymore as he has fallen head over heals in love with her and wants to take their relationship further. To add insult to injury when Lynette unexpectedly turns up on Susan's doorstop for a shoulder to cry on, Susan throws a scantly dressed Jackson out, witnessed by neighbours Lee and Bob. Susan doesn't want love and doesn't think she deserves happiness. It is going to be up to Jackson to change her mind throughout the coming season.
Gaby and Carlos Solis The biggest change to any set of characters over the last five years has probably occurred to the Solis' in every sense. First off Carlos is still blind (although is thought to regain his sight sometime during Season 5). To earn a living he is a masseur but he and Gaby have hit on hard times financially. Gaby will declare in despair to Bree early in the season "We used to have help, now we are the help."
The formally glamourous, vain and self-centred Gaby, is completely changed. She is now frumpy, wearing dowdy clothes, let herself go and having to not only consider her blind husband but also two young daughters, Juanita and Celia. The elder daughter, Juanita, is 4-and-a-half and is very fat and obsessed with food, something Gaby is struggling with. Perhaps through her dispair at her daughter we do see that underneath Gaby is still the same old Gaby. Carlos won't acknowledge their daughters problems saying she will grow out of it.
Gaby's circumstances have been completely reset, but there is a fear after a few episodes her struggling with young children could be a re-hash of Lynette. However Eva Longoria Parker's many male admirers needn't dispair as we are told Gaby will get her looks back after a few episodes of Season 5.
It seems unlikly Gaby will be involved in the Season mystery.
Katherine Mayfair At the end Season 4 we heard that Dylan was living in Paris and had just got engaged. So Katherine is living alone and lonely. She soon develops a crush on Dave Williams and it is thought she will embark in an affair with him, this will no doubt get her on Edie's bad side.
In other aspects of Katherine's life she is equally un-settled. Over the past 5 years she and Bree developed a very successful catering business, however as Bree became a local celebrity poised for national fame, Katherine has been left in the shadows, although it is Katherine who is really the one doing all the work for the business and the brainchild behind most of the business.
As Season 5 opens we quickly learn that Katherine is getting sick of playing second fiddle to Bree.
Bree & Orson Hodge In Season 4, Bree and Orson split up after she found out the truth about Mike's accident (at the end of Season 2) but in the Season 4 cliffhanger - when the series jumped forward 5 years - Bree and Orson were back together. At the start of Season 5 Bree and Orson are reconciled but we soon learn that this hasn't long occurred and we will also learn why Bree took Orson back. What has happened to Orson these past 5 years is all tied into why Bree has had him back so I won't spoil it.
Meanwhile while Orson has been out of Bree's life, she has become a local celebrity who is about to become a national success with the publication of her own cookbook. A number of the recipes in the book are actually the creation of Katherine, but Bree has failed to credit Katherine's work and as the duo's catering business has been relying for years on Katherine's hard work, Katherine is starting to feel a little resentment. If Bree's professional life is not at its best, neither is her personal life. Bree will soon be juggling a successful career with her domestic life as the two collide. Orson is particularly upset that Bree is now using the name "Bree van de Kamp" again.
Is Bree the housewife Dave Williams is after? Doubtful but you never know, assuming Dave's real name is Williams, wasn't that also the name of Bree's deranged deceased ex George?
Andrew van de Kamp He now wears designer suites and is quite the businessman managing his mother's career. However apparently we can expect a little bit of the bad Andrew to surface during the season.
Lynette & Tom Scavo Of all the characters, these are the least changed. Okay instead of little tearaways they are now dealing with teenage nightmares. Also Tom is about to embark on a mid-life crisis and Lynette appears to be completely free of cancer. However at the start of Season 5 they still have their Pizzeria but their lives are occupied with their family. The children themselves might be 5 years older, but for their parents, the basic struggles of raising them and agreeing on the same parenting policies, are still the issues that run that household.
Kayla might be back at some point but won't be seen in early Season 5.
Is Lynette the housewife Dave Williams is after? No indications of such so far.
The Scavo Children These will be series regulars, but apparently we won't meet Parker and Penny in episode 1. Penny is now about 8 or 9. Parker is around 14 years old and a mummy's boy, a geek and an all round good boy. The twins, Porter and Preston, are every mother's nightmare. One of the twins has already spent time in 'Juvenile Hall' and it looks like the other isn't far behind.
Bob and Lee Susan's gay neighbours will be back guest starring in occasional episodes.
The Other Children The other children on Wisteria Lane will only guest star. These will consist of Maynard Delfino who is now known as MJ. He is 5 years old, blonde and lives with his mother. Look out for him getting into a falling out with the Solis girls in episode 3. This results in a brawl between Susan and Gaby after Gaby nastily tells Susan it is time she taught her son "to grow a pair." The other children are the mis-cast 4-and-a-half Juanita Solis. Okay she is probably a very good actress and has much to do in her early scenes, however people have pointed out that she looks much older than MJ when she is supposed to be younger and her whole actions just don't ring true for someone her age. Celia Solis we know little about.
There are also rumours that Bob and Lee have a 4 year old daughter but I have found no strong evidence of this.
These are the only children on Wisteria Lane. Ben Hodge does not live in the area anymore.
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Post by Lane Kent on Nov 13, 2008 22:29:39 GMT
Every November we get a death on Wisteria Lane. It has been the same since episode 1. Since Episode 3 they have added high drama with that year offering the critically acclaimed "Bang" episode featuring a hostage situation and claiming the lives of Nora and Carolyn. Season 4 offered a tornado with "Something's Coming" and Season 5 will feature a big fire. Episode 8 "City On Fire" will air in the US this weekend (so probably in the UK early December). The episode will see the return of Julie Mayer. Below is one of many reviews about this upcoming episode. www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/11/13/entertainment/e090752S55.DTL
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Post by Lane Kent on Nov 13, 2008 22:29:37 GMT
Every November we get a death on Wisteria Lane. It has been the same since episode 1. Since Episode 3 they have added high drama with that year offering the critically acclaimed "Bang" episode featuring a hostage situation and claiming the lives of Nora and Carolyn. Season 4 offered a tornado with "Something's Coming" and Season 5 will feature a big fire. Episode 8 "City On Fire" will air in the US this weekend (so probably in the UK early December). The episode will see the return of Julie Mayer. Below is one of many reviews about this upcoming episode. www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/11/13/entertainment/e090752S55.DTL
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