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Post by RitaLittlewood on May 23, 2012 16:20:53 GMT
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Post by CG Wendy on May 23, 2012 16:53:14 GMT
I never did like the character of Liz McDonald, but I really feel sorry for Bev Callard, She is correct that the smoking ban in pubs hurt a lot of businesses in the brewery sector. Hundreds if not thousand of pubs closed down because of it. Even Bevs celebrity status didn`t help. And it`s a shame because I know she loved her other job. It`s good that she`s got more acting work. Maybe she`s hoping PC will take pity on her and bring her back to Corrie. Although if I was her I wouldn`t hold my breath - not until Corrie has a new producer anyway.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on May 23, 2012 17:43:10 GMT
I felt sorry for her the first time but what was she spending money on THIS time to avoid paying tax? You get into trouble it's a wake up call to stop you doing it again. As for pubs, it's not only the smoking ban but cheap booze from supermarkets. Many pubs are still thriving though because they adapted to pull in the punters.
Patsy
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Post by pearly queen on May 23, 2012 18:56:27 GMT
I don't know about the rest of the country but in London many pubs closed down long before the smoking ban. It was put down (then, at least) in no small part, as Patsy says to cheap supermarket booze. A night out in the pub cost far too much - especially if it was a weekend night where a stagger to the kebab shop or chippy, and or a cab fare, was added in. People can get a takeaway curry, and a crate of supermarket booze and sit and watch telly for less than half the price of an evening in the pub. Definitely not because people are drinking less! They just don't want to pay pub prices. The only pubs really thriving round here are the chains like Wetherspoons who have lots of promotions, and food deals, and the old fashioned places like the Rovers can't compete. It used to be that a few pints in your local of an evening was normal behaviour, but in the last 10 years that has become a luxury. It used to be that dinner parties were considered posh and elitist, but now lots of people prefer to invite their pals round for a plate of chilli or spag bol and a Sainsbury's wine box. It's cheaper, the seats are more comfortable, the toilets are cleaner, there's no last orders, you control who walks in and out of your door.
It's a shame so many pubs are in trouble. I don't got them very often myself these days - but it would be terrible if they all died out, and there was no facility there at all.
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Post by sootycat on May 24, 2012 11:01:20 GMT
They reckon around 25 pubs shut weekly...very sad.
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Post by Nick on May 24, 2012 15:17:37 GMT
there is at least 3 near us that have shut down...instead of having a smoking ban they should have invested in competent air conditioning
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Post by CG Wendy on May 24, 2012 15:30:25 GMT
Our local (the Oakfield) has both a bar and lounge. It would`ve been good if they make the bar smoking and the lounge non smoking. Thankfully its still open....I joined their FB site a few years ago LOL
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Post by RitaLittlewood on May 24, 2012 16:46:20 GMT
We lost some which are now flats before the smoking ban but the main ones near me from childhood (The Heath, The Croft, Lord Nelson and Gleneagles) are still around. There's even the little known Traveller's Rest up a teeny leafy side road which has been there as long as I can remember.
Patsy
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2012 9:59:55 GMT
We lost a few local pubs, but most of them well before the smoking ban, and mainly because the brewery involved made a habit of selling their sites off to property developers.
Other local pubs seem to be doing as well as ever, but have become a bit more 'food-y' to compete with restaurants, and to take up the shortfall in the drinks side of the business.
I have to admit that locally the smoking ban has made a lot less impact than I expected.
I agree with Pearly that the real killer was the cheap supermarket booze, and to a lesser extent, the recession.
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Post by CG Wendy on May 25, 2012 17:57:57 GMT
Yes you`re all correct - cheap supermarket booze was the main reason. The smoking ban, and the recession added to it also. There was a place in the UK, (can`t remember if it was in Newport, South Wales) that sold pub meals for $1 each. They were struggling too - not sure if they closed down or not. Then recently they had pasties that cost extra if they were heated up. On a personal note, it wouldn`t have bothered me as I prefer pasties cold. But wow what a rip off. Cameron should be ashamed of himself.
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Post by pearly queen on May 25, 2012 19:39:03 GMT
Then recently they had pasties that cost extra if they were heated up. On a personal note, it wouldn`t have bothered me as I prefer pasties cold. But wow what a rip off. Cameron should be ashamed of himself. Greggs are now selling their sausage rolls and pasties frozen in Iceland; probably lots of their bakeries will close down - causing job losses, and wide-spread misery among hot pasty consumers
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Post by Jez on May 28, 2012 17:33:55 GMT
Poor Bev, I do feel sorry for her. She had to pull out of 2 theatre shows (a panto last Christmas and then a play) due to ill health. I hope this isnt going to cause her more ill health.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on May 30, 2012 22:01:32 GMT
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Post by pearly queen on Jun 1, 2012 17:42:56 GMT
Then recently they had pasties that cost extra if they were heated up. On a personal note, it wouldn`t have bothered me as I prefer pasties cold. But wow what a rip off. Cameron should be ashamed of himself. Greggs are now selling their sausage rolls and pasties frozen in Iceland; probably lots of their bakeries will close down - causing job losses, and wide-spread misery among hot pasty consumers Seems the government has backed down on this tax now, because apparently they have 'listened to us'. Ha! More like a senior Tory supporter had just sunk a small fortune into Gregg's or the Cornwall Pasty Company, and wants his money back. Anyways, it's good news for 'normal' people. Hopefully bakers and caffs and similar small businesses won't be crushed by being forced to raise prices, and the rest of us can enjoy the odd high street treat without having to save up first.
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Post by pearly queen on Jun 1, 2012 17:48:36 GMT
Don't these people have accountants? I'm sure high earning self-employed people are advised that they will have tax bills on the horizon, and that they need to budget accordingly - like whack a chunk into a bond, or something, until the payment is due. He left Corrie donkey's years ago, and with no hope of a return, so he's been dining out on that one for long enough. Since then he's done other things, and needs to look after his finances - the rest of us have to pay our way as we go along.
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Post by Jez on Jun 1, 2012 18:02:31 GMT
If I was earning the type of money they had been id have definately have saved a decent amount, that way if you find yourself without a job or in debt at least you have something to fall back on. Unfortunately for most of us who own a more "normal" amount of money not megabucks then we dont get to save that much if anything cos the cost of living is so high! No wonder people cant spend down the pub etc as much as before!!
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Jul 15, 2012 16:07:42 GMT
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Post by CG Wendy on Jul 15, 2012 17:39:29 GMT
If that flat in Spain is paid for, then she should sell it. If she`s as broke as she says she is, then she won`t be able to afford trips to Spain anyway. Or move to Spain permanently and pay off the house. I don`t know many people who can afford 2 properties in these difficult time anyway - especially as Bev doesn`t have any Corrie wages coming in.
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