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Post by Nick on Sept 1, 2014 22:02:24 GMT
To be honest I hadn't got a clue what on earth was happening ... why did they ask The Doctor and Clara to be shrunk and inserted into the Dalek...they didn't know them from Adam
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Sept 2, 2014 15:22:38 GMT
Because they needed a doctor is how I thought of it.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Sept 6, 2014 19:24:38 GMT
Was there even a story here? It was rush, rush, rush. Best bit was the blink and you miss it shot of Patrick Troughton as Robin Hood!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2014 3:21:14 GMT
We enjoyed it - it was fun, even if it was daft. Ben Miller made a great panto villain and Jenna Coleman looked gorgeous.  |
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Sept 7, 2014 11:25:44 GMT
Ben Miller looked like Tremas. LOL!
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Sept 13, 2014 20:25:29 GMT
That was weird to say the least but more gripping than the past 3 weeks. Can't believe Moffatt is continuing the picking up companion thing. May as well get anyone past, present and future.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Sept 18, 2014 14:13:34 GMT
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Post by sootycat on Sept 19, 2014 11:26:26 GMT
Much as I like Peter Capaldi's Doctor, for some reason I just can't get into this new series.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Sept 19, 2014 11:41:05 GMT
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Sept 19, 2014 11:56:23 GMT
He needs to drop the "Mrs Peel, we're needed" stuff and just have the companion travel with him. From comments I've read, parts of last week's were lifted straight from Coupling and Sherlock, both of which involve Steven Moffatt. It really needs new ideas and more new writers.
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Post by sillybint on Sept 20, 2014 19:05:27 GMT
I think the writing slipped some time ago where preposterous ideas so long as they are visual are jammed in whether they make sense ultimately or not. It used to be science-fantasy but has often become just fantasy, but good fantasy adheres to it's own logic where frankly the last few seasons have had Swiss cheese style holes in it's logic that ruin things for me as often as not. There was a similar slip back in the 1980s that led to cancellations. The ideas are original usually just not at all worked through sometimes. Listen is an example: who even knocked on the door in the last planet in the universe and was under the bedspread in Rupert's room? That remained unexplained as well as unseen. I disliked seeing the Doctor as a child crying in bed like something from medieval Earth rather than the advanced place I thought Gallifrey was. I'll keep watching because it's there but that's about all. As with Colin Baker I don't blame the actor, it's the writing I am hard pressed to accept. Perhaps the influence of the supposedly brilliant throw-in-any-cliched-idea-that-occurs Harry Potter, including choreographed dance numbers from rival schools or super powerful beings? In which case we're back to purely a kids' show aren't we?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 5:32:45 GMT
We're a bit behind (still catching up on stuff since our return from hols). Haven't seen last night's (20th), but watched last week's (13th), which we both really enjoyed! Small cast and genuinely creepy in parts. Loved the fact that it was Clara who'd kicked off the Doctor's fear of things under the bed.  Probably our favourite of the series so far. |
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Sept 21, 2014 11:40:03 GMT
I think the writing slipped some time ago where preposterous ideas so long as they are visual are jammed in whether they make sense ultimately or not. It used to be science-fantasy but has often become just fantasy, but good fantasy adheres to it's own logic where frankly the last few seasons have had Swiss cheese style holes in it's logic that ruin things for me as often as not. There was a similar slip back in the 1980s that led to cancellations. The ideas are original usually just not at all worked through sometimes. Listen is an example: who even knocked on the door in the last planet in the universe and was under the bedspread in Rupert's room? That remained unexplained as well as unseen. I disliked seeing the Doctor as a child crying in bed like something from medieval Earth rather than the advanced place I thought Gallifrey was. I'll keep watching because it's there but that's about all. As with Colin Baker I don't blame the actor, it's the writing I am hard pressed to accept. Perhaps the influence of the supposedly brilliant throw-in-any-cliched-idea-that-occurs Harry Potter, including choreographed dance numbers from rival schools or super powerful beings? In which case we're back to purely a kids' show aren't we? Agree with everything you say, sillybint. I absolutely hated the 'Last of the Timelord' nonsense and getting rid of Gallifrey just because RTD hated all that so I'm glad Gallifrey was brought back. I hated Rassilon being banished with Gallifrey because it buggered up continuity since Rassilon was long dead during the original series. He made it a completely separate show to the original but now it isn't. There does need to be a major change in the writing team. Many good moments are ruined by flashbacks, such as last night with the Doctor and Clara talking as she's getting ready for a date but it then cuts to her and Danny Pink. Peter Capaldi is good casting but Steven Moffatt is slowly wrecking it thanks to scripting. I've long been an advocate of him since he's a proper fan, unlike RTD writing it for himself, but even I've reached the point where he has to go before it turns into another JNT era. |
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Post by pearly queen on Sept 21, 2014 20:47:09 GMT
I laughed out loud towards the beginning, when Clara was getting ready for her date.
Doctor: You look taller.
Clara: Heels.
Doctor: Do you need to reach a high shelf?
Clara: I'm gonna be late!
Doctor: For a shelf?
Brilliant dialogue!
And the bit with the bloke with the brain sucked out - the flat skull: nightmarish. Scarier than any Dalek, that make me shudder.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Oct 2, 2014 11:07:31 GMT
Just caught up with The Caretaker. Quite enjoyed that and had some funny lines.
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Post by sillybint on Oct 4, 2014 3:58:06 GMT
Time Heist and The Caretaker both seemed better stories, mind you I may have been in a slightly altered state of mind. I still dislike the jump cut editing style being used so much however, it gives an added air of unreality when applied to everything in my opinion. They say the sign of a great musician is when not to play, where to leave space... then again maybe because it's a comp0lex story in under an hour usually they have to/want to cram it in?
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Oct 11, 2014 21:10:38 GMT
Quite enjoyed tonight's and even Frank Skinner wasn't as irritating as normal. Peter Capaldi is becoming more Doctorish with each ep. Pity the psychic paper made a comeback. It's a lazy plot device. Far more fun with the Doctor blustering his way into things. Trying to think which Tom Baker story had jelly babies in a cigarette case.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 9:56:42 GMT
Lost interest - still love Jenna Coleman, and Peter Capaldi is doing an 'OK' job, but I just think all the ideas are now either stale or just plain confusing.
It looks good, it's well made, but I just don't really enjoy it any more.
Plenty of other stuff about that IS worth watching, and I'm not going to carry on watching something that doesn't give me a buzz anymore just because it's a cult series.
Sad but true.
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Post by sootycat on Oct 13, 2014 10:53:26 GMT
I enjoyed this especially Frank Skinner funnily enough.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Oct 13, 2014 12:10:56 GMT
Maybe because the script wasn't anything to do with Steven Moffatt. LOL! I've been a big supporter of SM but now he really has to go for Capaldi to stand a chance.
Did you catch the impression of Tom? I didn't so checked iPlayer but it was good.
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Post by sillybint on Oct 19, 2014 20:18:02 GMT
The Flatlines two-dimensional invasion story was pretty good. Before that the train in space was nice visually to see, that concept dates back to an old Japanese fantasy sf story (translated titled as) 'Night Train To The Stars' which I think was from the 1930s. I thought that was a pretty decent episode except again for the self-referential winks to the viewers about Doctor Who cliches... that's a very bad habit to get into! Especially when secondary characters are facing imminent death yet crack a joke sending up the whole thing? I seem to remember that staring back with David Tennant with the Agatha Christie story. Maybe to the time travellers it's all a lark to pop boiled sweets in your mouth while things happen around them, but the supposedly real historical people getting popped off by giant wasps or mummies are dying supposedly real deaths, so show some respect? What happened in the '80s was verging in pantomime for awhile until they pulled it back for a couple of decent final seasons with characters who at least believed in themselves.
I remember Tom Baker threatening people with a 'deadly jelly baby' in The Face Of Evil but don't remember if they were in a cigarette case. Cue flashback of Parade Of The Jelly Babies song by 'The Gollywogs'.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Oct 20, 2014 11:03:55 GMT
I enjoyed Flatlines. It was a bit silly at times but an interesting concept with the Doctor stuck inside an ever-shrinking Tardis.
This is the problem with the stories being self contained in 47 minutes or whatever. Although I remember the Doctor seemingly being heartless in the original series and not having respect for the dead because there were aliens to vanquish.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Nov 10, 2014 20:54:19 GMT
Well all over until the Xmas special. I watched The Invasion immediately afterwards. Much better Cybermen/UNIT story. Wasn't keen on Danny Pink and the romance. All that toing and froing made it disjointed. Either travel or stay home! Didn't give a toss he died or was turned into a Cyberman. The story had been done already in Revelation of the Daleks with Davros making the dead his new army of Daleks. Missy was good but no explanation of how the Master became a woman. He has no regenerations left so just steals bodies. Would have been better creating a new villain. Very cruel tricking the Doctor about the whereabouts of Gallifrey. Loved the Brig portrait in the plane but not Cyberbrig. He was a proud soldier unlike Danny Drip. I bet Clara's up the duff. Yawn! All in all not a bad series despite being The Clara Show. Moffatt has to go though.
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Post by Nick on Nov 10, 2014 23:03:03 GMT
We only watched the first two then sort of lost interest ... I got fed up with her travelling one minute then being a teacher the next
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Nov 11, 2014 14:49:38 GMT
Yeah that was very boring. He could just go and travel with anyone. Moffatt did that with Amy and Rory which was annoying as well.
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