Liam

[Nick]

Oh Rob Rob Rob...you are in danger of dissapearing up your own thespian arsehole

[RitaLittlewood]

Next time he speaks listen for an echo.

Patsy

[pearly queen]

Lol Nick and Patsy!

Rob must be well aware of what he looks like - and if he said he'd never in his whole life exploited his looks in any situation to get what he wanted, then he'd be a liar.
When they were casting Liam Connor they were bound to be looking for a sexy good looking actor, who would have all these female characters frothing for him. If they'd wanted a plain guy, who seduces women by patter and charm, but not looks - they would have hired one.

If he was so concerned about not looking sexy on Corrie he could have requested to be 'uglified' by the make-up/costume departments, so that his natural good looks were disguised and therefore drew less attention.

[RitaLittlewood]

Bet he preens himself every day and always carries round a mirror.

Patsy

[Peter]

Sounds like alot of Liam/Rob envy here.

I agree that the more important awards would be best actor/actress/dramatic performances etc, but as we all know these type of local wards shows are all a load of bollocks anyway.

[RitaLittlewood]

Who's envious? He's just shown himself to be a pretentious git by sneering at panto. What's there to be envious about that?

They are and there's too many of them. Not like years ago when things meant something.

Patsy

[CG Wendy]

Would Rob prefer he not win an award at all? Sexiest male on his CV is better than none at all. And he has been nominated quite a few times for best actor.

Oh Rob Rob Rob...you are in danger of dissapearing up your own thespian arsehole

And the *K* award for the funniest post of the day goes to Nick
;D

[RitaLittlewood]

Must be a really rubbish actor then not to win. Bit parts as corpses in The Bill beckon!

Patsy

[sallywebster]

Nothing wrong with doing panto but nothing wrong with him having ambitions above doing that either. Its his career afterall!

I dont think he loves himself at all - if he did surely he would be glad to be winning all these sexiest male awards and saying "arent I great" instead of being annoyed and embarrassed by winning.

[RitaLittlewood]

True. However he still decried it as if he was far too superior to lower himself.

If his acting was much cop he'd win acting awards as opposed to sexiest. He could have had a word with Steve Frost as asked NOT to be nominated.

Patsy

[Peter]

It's not a bad thing not to not want to do panto. I think you're blowing it out of proportion.

[RitaLittlewood]

No it was the way he said it which shows snobbery. Nothing has been blown up out of proportion and if you read the subsequent posts you will see others think the same. He didn't even have to mention panto. It's been good enough for many respected actors down the decades but not for him. He'll come to rely on that one day - if they'll hire him with an attitude towards the medium like that.

Patsy

[Nick]

May 22, 2008 20:50:13 GMT CG Wendy said:

Would Rob prefer he not win an award at all? Sexiest male on his CV is better than none at all. And he has been nominated quite a few times for best actor.

Oh Rob Rob Rob...you are in danger of dissapearing up your own thespian arsehole

And the *K* award for the funniest post of the day goes to Nick
;D

Thanks CG

Why couldn't he just accept the award in the spirit it was given and keep his trap shut....

[CG Wendy]

Yeah Nick. If he was as good an actor as he claims, we would have believed his sincerity.

[Peter]

May 22, 2008 22:08:57 GMT RitaLittlewood said:

No it was the way he said it which shows snobbery. Nothing has been blown up out of proportion and if you read the subsequent posts you will see others think the same. He didn't even have to mention panto. It's been good enough for many respected actors down the decades but not for him. He'll come to rely on that one day - if they'll hire him with an attitude towards the medium like that.

Patsy

You're right, I forgot as long as we all agree with each other that's what matters. I don't think it's snobbery if he sees it as a step down, it is. It's not exactly a proper theater piece is it? Whether he gets hired won't be affected by it, it'll be by talent and acting ability, which in his case is pretty standard. (Nothing to shout home about)

[sallywebster]

May 22, 2008 21:44:18 GMT RitaLittlewood said:

True. However he still decried it as if he was far too superior to lower himself.

If his acting was much cop he'd win acting awards as opposed to sexiest. He could have had a word with Steve Frost as asked NOT to be nominated.

Patsy

True but they probabaly thought he stood the best chance of winning out of anyone in Corrie for sexiest male so put him forward (which proved to be right as he won two years running!) So I doubt he had much say in whether he was put forward or not.

However he never really stood a chance of winning the acting award as there were so many others like Jack P Shephard, James Sutton, Chris Fountain etc who stood more chance of winning.

[sallywebster]

May 23, 2008 9:21:26 GMT Peter said:

May 22, 2008 22:08:57 GMT RitaLittlewood said:

No it was the way he said it which shows snobbery. Nothing has been blown up out of proportion and if you read the subsequent posts you will see others think the same. He didn't even have to mention panto. It's been good enough for many respected actors down the decades but not for him. He'll come to rely on that one day - if they'll hire him with an attitude towards the medium like that.

Patsy

You're right, I forgot as long as we all agree with each other that's what matters. I don't think it's snobbery if he sees it as a step down, it is. It's not exactly a proper theater piece is it? Whether he gets hired won't be affected by it, it'll be by talent and acting ability, which in his case is pretty standard. (Nothing to shout home about)

I agree Peter. Panto is ok and many actors take breaks from soaps especially Aussie soaps to come over to the UK and do panto, but if Rob James Collier doesnt want to do Panto and wants to aim higher than that I think he should. As I said before its his career, he can do what he wants. At least he is being honest and saying he wants more than that.

Maybe panto just isnt his thing - I guess either you are the type of person who can do panto, entertain kids and dress up in silly clothes etc or you are not. I certainly wouldnt want to!

[RitaLittlewood]

He said: "I won't be doing panto. I want to be taken seriously as an actor and that means landing the right part."

Peter, did you bother reading that or the subsequent comments following from our members? Panto is hardly a step down. It is bloody hard work, the hardest theatre work you can do. Maybe that's his problem. He wants a cushy acting life because he's bone idle or he knows he hasn't the talent for it. He didn't even have to mention it. He could have just said he wants to be taken seriously as an actor. However he did in a dismissive way, insulting the highly respected actors of the past and present who have done it and it got people's backs up. He ought to watch it or he'll end up the Roger de Courcey and Krankies of his day - IF they even hire someone who thinks Panto is the lowest of the low in the acting world.

Ditto Jez.

Patsy

[CG Wendy]

Theatre is very hard work too. I remember reading Bill Podmores autobiography and there was an article about Pat Pheonix about how she wanted time off to do theatre work. When she came back to Coronation Street she said she was glad to be back as Elsie Tanner as theatre work was so exhausting.

[RitaLittlewood]

Colin Baker often says he feels guilty when someone comes up to him at the stage door saying how hard he's worked when it was only a couple of hours and nothing compared to nurses, police etc. Pat Phoenix, when she left the first time, toured and that is exhausting because as soon as you've finished you're off to the next place which could be the other end of the country. I never understood why they plan it like that. Surely it would make more sense to go to the nearest one and work their way back. Course then there's also the pay and theatre is peanuts compared to TV yet most actors prefer it as you connect more with the audience.

Patsy

[Nick]

I agree Panto is hard work....6 nights a week,matinees on wednesday and saturday......I would imagine to do Panto you have to have the ability as an actor to think on your feet and ad lib ..some actors can't do it..I know that when Sid James was doing the stage show 'Carry on London' he hated it if any of the other actors started ad libbing and veering off the script because he couldn't do it

[RitaLittlewood]

It is. I received a postcard from Louise Jameson in 2005 once she'd finished her panto saying she was going to enjoy her rest now. LOL!

Jon Pertwee was the same, as you'll know from the Three Doctors, when Patrick Troughton would say any old thing rather than the script. Patrick Troughton made his loathing of all theatre well known by calling it "Shouting in the evening". Course these days they don't even project their voice. It's all done by microphone. Some of the best parts are in the theatre and that can also improve their standing as they gain experience. Too many these days want instant success without really having to work and the way TV has gone their best bet would be theatre because at least it's steady work. The likes of Rob would have been a disaster in rep, turning his nose up at things. Some of our greatest actors have come from a theatrical background and did panto at some stage in their career so it's nothing to be sneered at. I'm sure Ian McKellen didn't think playing Widow Twanky a few years ago was taking a step down. Even Americans are coming over now. I'm surprised with the hard work that Mickey Rooney survived his foray into it.

Patsy

[Peter]

May 23, 2008 12:04:33 GMT RitaLittlewood said:

He said: "I won't be doing panto. I want to be taken seriously as an actor and that means landing the right part."

Peter, did you bother reading that or the subsequent comments following from our members?
Patsy

Yes I did. Do you bother to listen to others that have a different opinion or do you just like the sound of your own voice all the time?

[RitaLittlewood]

You and Jez have one opinion. The rest of us disagree with you both. Yet you choose to ignore their comments and act like I am the ONLY one saying he's a pretentious snob.

Patsy

[Peter]

I don't ignore the rest of the comments, i do read them and still disagree with them. Just because I don't agree with the "herd" doesn't make my opions any less valuable.

Secondly, I do think it's a step down whether you agree with me or not, though that's my opinion not Rob's, but I never said it was any less hard work.

Funny, my first comment applies to a few people, yet you've gone at it with a dog like a bone. Draw your own conclusions. I've stated my reasons previously, try reading them. You think of him as a snob, I don't. So what if he doesn't want to do it. Get over it. The very people in this thread crying "Snob" are the ones ending up sounding like they're up they're own backsides. Judge, jury and excecution.

I think that's about all there is left to say.