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Post by BillyNiblick on Oct 9, 2006 21:13:41 GMT
Yes. Poignant was the word - though the usual Blanche/Norris Nosey Parker knockabout in church was pretty well done too - you sort of get the feeling that these two would actually be gravely disappointed to attend a wedding where the bride and groom both turned up on time and everything went entirely smoothly and without a hitch, except the intended one. Poignant as Fred asked young Ashley to fetch him what was to be all but his final scotch and threat. But I too was just a little puzzled as to why Fred felt the need effectively to steal Dev's car and rush to Audrey's side. I expect Audrey will now be riddled with guilt. Still, at least he went quick, taking a header into Audrey's front door by the sound of it. I hope when my time comes that I go as quick as that - I say I hope I go as quick as that.
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Post by CG Wendy on Oct 10, 2006 0:28:01 GMT
I can`t believe I am saying this but...... I feel more sorry for Audrey than I do for Bev. Sure I feel really bad for Bev, but Audrey will have to live with all this guilt for years. I wonder if Audreys household insurance policy has a claus for "ex boyfriends keeling over and smashing glass" Will we be seeing Archie Shuttleworth soon?
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Post by jessi on Oct 10, 2006 5:54:24 GMT
I guess so. I think arcihe's character.
I feel so bad for poor Bev. Noot so much for Audrey but for Bev, she was so excited over it all.
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Post by BillyNiblick on Oct 10, 2006 6:22:38 GMT
The great Nancy-Banks-Smith in this morning's Grauniad :
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Post by Cheetah on Oct 10, 2006 11:18:04 GMT
Quote from the man himself re Panto - "Playing Baron Hardup in Snow White & 7 Whatsits at the Palace Theatre, Manchester".
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Post by CG Wendy on Oct 10, 2006 15:57:37 GMT
Great article Billy....thanks
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Oct 10, 2006 20:26:33 GMT
Ratings from BBC Online:
Last Updated: Tuesday, 10 October 2006, 11:09 GMT 12:09 UK Fred's demise witnessed by 11m
The departure of the Coronation Street character Fred Elliott was watched by 11m viewers on Monday night.
The first episode of the double bill which was aired at 1930 BST got the highest ratings, while the second outing an hour later drew 10.7m.
It was the second part which showed Elliott - played by John Savident - collapse and die from a heart attack.
The storyline helped to boost the ITV soap's ratings, as 9m people tuned in on Sunday to watch the programme.
The Manchester-based series beat EastEnders on BBC One, which pulled in 9m viewers.
The soap is sandwiched between the two episodes of Coronation Street on Monday evenings.
Old adversary
But Elliott's dramatic death of failed to beat the departure of Mike Baldwin in April.
Some 12.5m fans tuned in to watch the factory owner - who had been in the soap for 30 years - die of a heart attack.
Baldwin, who had been suffering from Alzheimer's disease, died in the arms of old adversary Ken Barlow.
Viewers saw the Street's butcher and owner of the Rovers Return pub die at his friend Audrey Roberts' house just before he was due to be married to Beverley Unwin.
Audrey, who had admitted having feelings for Elliott, then faced having to explain to his bride-to-be why he had been at her house.
Filming for his funeral has already taken place and will be screened on 20 October.
Savident started playing Fred Elliott 11 years ago and soon became a firm favourite amongst regular Coronation Street viewers.
Elliott's death was the 101st to be screened on Coronation Street, which has been on air since 1960.
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Isn't that average anyway?
Patsy
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Post by sallywebster on Oct 10, 2006 21:39:19 GMT
Not much higher than normal.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Oct 11, 2006 9:17:46 GMT
You'd have thought too that the 2nd would have got the higher ratings. The fairweather viewers obviously didn't give a toss then. I say, didn't give a toss.
Patsy
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Post by BillyNiblick on Oct 11, 2006 11:37:20 GMT
A bit bizarre, surely - tuning in to see a death? Thought we left all that behind with Christians and Lions........
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Oct 11, 2006 15:31:25 GMT
People do though. My mum originally started because it was put out about Val Barlow dying. I watched EE to see Dirty Den murdered.
Patsy
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Post by valda on Oct 11, 2006 16:33:16 GMT
yes your right Patsy, it`s normal for a person to do that and not morbid Billy a lot of people watched eastender`s to watch Dirty Den murdered (me included;)), my parent`s were watching coronation street just before Valerie Barlow had her accidential death Patsy
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Post by pearly queen on Oct 11, 2006 18:13:59 GMT
Births, deaths and marriages are always big pullers on any soap/serial with regular characters; these events bring out extremes of behaviour in some people and viewers are hoping for decent scripts and performances on these occasions.
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Post by pearly queen on Oct 11, 2006 20:05:34 GMT
The scenes in the Chapel of Rest were a bit OTT, Ashley accusing Audrey of killing Fred was a bit much. Don't they have to do a post-mortem when someone dies suddenly like that? They don't hang about in Weatherfield, do they?
John Savident did really well lying in his coffin not giggling during those scenes, and I kept expecting Fred to sit up and ask for a scotch n threat.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Oct 11, 2006 20:36:50 GMT
Yes they would because there's no known cause of death. He just collapsed.
Patsy
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Post by Mrs Demigod on Oct 11, 2006 21:18:28 GMT
I actually don't feel sorry for Audrey, mainly becuase even if she was not responsible for putting Fred under all that stress, she tried to scupper his wedding and his hapiness, why she had to wait till the day to put her big show on I don't know. Ashley blames Audrey as he told her not to go through with it, to let it all be, but she didn't. What is he meant ot think?
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Post by BillyNiblick on Oct 11, 2006 21:23:30 GMT
John Savident did really well lying in his coffin not giggling during those scenes, and I kept expecting Fred to sit up and ask for a scotch n threat. Heh heh - I was thinking that too - I'd love to see the out-takes reel from those scenes - I bet Savident is a giggler - or in the theatrical vernacular, always (appropriately on this occasion) corpsing.
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Post by sallywebster on Oct 11, 2006 21:49:34 GMT
Well I can see Ashley's point about accusing Audrey, he thinks because she told Fred she would have said yes had he asked her to marry him that it stressed Fred out so much it caused his death.
However I dont think Audrey is to blame really.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Oct 12, 2006 10:01:23 GMT
No it's the writers. Patsy
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Post by sootycat on Oct 12, 2006 11:05:49 GMT
Actually, I was more interested in watching Roy Hudd, as there had been stories if him being taken ill, and Fred leaping !! out of the coffin.
Rita didn't hold back either did she with her rant at Audrey.
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Post by BillyNiblick on Oct 12, 2006 12:43:42 GMT
Nancy again:
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Post by Nick on Oct 12, 2006 21:15:28 GMT
I thought Roy Hudd looked a bit poorly..and the scene later you heard his voice off screen..so he was probably too ill to record that scene
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Post by sootycat on Oct 13, 2006 11:57:26 GMT
I fell about laughing when Audrey touched Fred's hand and remarked how cold he was. That's because he's dead.!!
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Post by Mrs Demigod on Oct 13, 2006 12:30:20 GMT
I could have really done without seeing Fred lying in a coffin. I know that I perhaps may sound over-sensitive, but he was one of my all time favourite characters, I say all time favourite! For that reason and because of one or two personal reasons, I really would have prefferred to not see Fred in his coffin.
The other thing I have to wonder about was Archie and his crowd control, letting both Audrey AND Bev in? The chapel of rest is no place to have a slanging match or to hurl accusations.
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Post by Nick on Oct 13, 2006 18:20:59 GMT
I don't think its necessary to see corpses.......seeing Audrey looking down would have been quite sufficient
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