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Post by valda on Nov 6, 2006 21:13:49 GMT
Frankie stay with Danny please, please stop encourageing Jamie (beg)
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Post by BillyNiblick on Nov 6, 2006 21:55:21 GMT
I can't bear it..it makes me feel uncomfortable everytime they are together..and jamie saying 'I want you now'...to someone he thinks of as his mother.......yuk Surely the point is that he doesn't think of Frankie as his mother?
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Post by valda on Nov 8, 2006 13:20:50 GMT
Billy if that is the point then Jamie is one mixed up and sick as this storyline kid
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Post by Nick on Nov 8, 2006 15:15:42 GMT
How can you suddenly stop seeing someone as your mother (when that is what you have known them as since you were 5)..and start seeing them in a sexual way??
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Post by CG Wendy on Nov 8, 2006 15:38:59 GMT
I`m wondering the same thing too Nick....it`s so creepy. And Jamie is making it worse because he seems to be bullying Frankie. No, I don`t like this storyline at all. And I`m not sure if it`s because I have a son called Jamie (he`s 15 next month). I probably wouldn`t mind this storyline so much if Frankie and Danny had only been married a few years. But Jamie was around 7 when they met/married so Frankie has been a mother figure for Jamie for years and years. Its creepy.
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Post by valda on Nov 8, 2006 18:10:56 GMT
Nick your right you can`t suddenly as Corries Jamie has done stop seeing the person who has brought you up as a mum and start seeing them in a sexuel way :,(, it,s too creepy for word,s this storyline I really hate it , Jamie and the script writer,s who wrote it need treatment fast !,(I feel ill with this storyline excuse me running to the bathroom ).
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Post by normacondren on Nov 15, 2006 20:39:23 GMT
Its just too creepy for words.I think everyone feels the same about it.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Nov 16, 2006 16:09:25 GMT
There was an interview with Rupert Hill in yesterday's Echo (I didn't know he was from Southampton). He said he convinced himself Jamie always fancied her and he and Debra were wary of it being too strange or sensational.
Patsy
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Post by eileengrimshaw on Nov 19, 2006 15:49:07 GMT
Its just too creepy for words.I think everyone feels the same about it. I do norma. As soon as I read the spoilers & saw the way it was heading I decided to switch off. It's almost as bad as that Brookside incest storyline, although I suppose it's not technically incest & Frankie & Jamie aren't related. At this rate it'll be next year before I start watching again as it seems this awful storyline will be dragging on for some time yet.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Nov 19, 2006 19:49:10 GMT
As usual they reckon viewers 'will be gripped'. As usual they misjudged them!
Patsy
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Post by sallywebster on Nov 19, 2006 20:18:59 GMT
I have to say ive lost all respect and sympathy for Frankie. Putting aside the fact they are practically related she is just as bad as Danny and Leanne the way she was carrying on in Friday's 2nd episode - taking Jamie's keys so she would have to return them to him at the house - purlease. She just doesnt seem to know what she wants, i'll actually be glad to see the last of Frankie.
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Post by pearly queen on Nov 19, 2006 22:23:46 GMT
How could anyone prefer Jamie (or Danny for that matter) to Liam? No contest.
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Post by sallywebster on Nov 19, 2006 23:08:26 GMT
LOL I prefer Liam, he is so gorgeous. But I also like Danny. Frankie was stupid to let Liam go.
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Post by sootycat on Nov 20, 2006 12:35:01 GMT
I thought the rant that Sean came out with to Jamie and Frankie was spot on. I was cheering everything he said.
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Post by Nick on Nov 20, 2006 12:50:31 GMT
I agree..at last someone talking sense..well said Sean
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Post by sallywebster on Nov 20, 2006 20:12:03 GMT
I agree totally. I couldnt believe Jamie said Sean of all people should understand just because he is gay. When will people realise that being gay is no big deal.
Well done Sean!
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Post by tracey on Nov 21, 2006 9:20:57 GMT
i am not enjoying this storyline at all, i have recorded coronation st so i don't have to watch Jamie & Frankie together
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Post by BillyNiblick on Nov 21, 2006 12:52:52 GMT
As usual they reckon viewers 'will be gripped'. As usual they misjudged them! Patsy Yeah, well, i'm certainly not "gripped". It's not that I'm especially disgusted or outraged by the storyline, it's that it's so completely fanciful and contrived. I dare say that stepsons really do fancy their stepmothers now and again, particularly if they are as foxy as Frankie and close to them in age, but it can't be all that common. I simply can't get "gripped" by a storyline that is so unlikely and incredible.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Nov 21, 2006 16:30:52 GMT
They're getting desperate.
Patsy
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Post by jessi on Nov 21, 2006 18:01:16 GMT
They must be
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Post by pearly queen on Nov 21, 2006 19:13:18 GMT
Danny, Frankie AND Jamie all need Sex Addiction therapy - preferably FAR away from Weatherfield.
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Post by sallywebster on Nov 21, 2006 21:06:12 GMT
Maybe they could go to Karen McDonald who is now a sex thrapist in Strictly Confidential on Thursdays!
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Post by pearly queen on Nov 21, 2006 21:20:42 GMT
LOL! Jez, yes, she'd have a field day with their Oedipal problems!
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Nov 26, 2006 13:27:37 GMT
From today's Mirror:
SON-THINGS ARE TOO SICK I DON'T know about you - but this sordid affair between Coronation Street van driver Jamie Baldwin and his mum Frankie gives me the creeps. No wonder desperate Danny is so upset. If I was him I'd have left Jamie to drown in the canal.
Mind you, the incestuous romance did provide devestated dad Danny with one of the great soap lines of all time...
"You've been cheating on your old man," stormed the fuming factory boss after finding his weirdo son in bed with the woman who raised him. "An affair - lying and deceiving. I know - I've been there. Not with my own mother, I'll grant you."
OK, technically Frankie is her warped new lover's stepmother. But that minor nicety doesn't make this pervert plotline any easier to swallow.
It was supposed to be the magic moment when womaniser Danny finally got his comeuppance for sleeping with Jamie's girlfriend Leanne. But who among us didn't feel sorry for the poor bloke as he found his fiance between the sheets with the fruit of his loins. "You're sick," bellowed Danny, "You're sleeping with your son!"
I could barely watch as Frankie and Jamie tried to mount their defence. You can't defend the indefensible.
"Never mind getting into your mum's knickers," snarled Danny while squaring up to his cowering son, "You want to smash my face in."
But during a fearsome fight it was Danny who smashed Jamie's already sunken face even further in. Then just before unconscious Jamie sank to a well-deserved watery grave his father dived down to save him.
Frankie stared contemptuously at Danny and spat: "I had doubts - but not any more."
You're having sex with your son. What's to be doubtful about?
Danny - a nation weeps. There's a word for your twisted son. Or is it two?
Mother f***er.
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Post by RitaLittlewood on Dec 5, 2006 14:55:55 GMT
From Shelleyvision in today's Mirror:
FRANKIE MY DEAR, I DON'T GIVE A DAMN 5 December 2006 A DISASTROUS week for Coronation Street. The conclusion of the interminable, incredible story of Frankie and Jamie's secret affair, combined with Cilla's transformation into a character we're meant to care about, made for days of tedium.
Personally, I went off Debra Stephenson and Wendi Peters after their smug and appalling appearance on Celebrity Stars In Their Eyes.
At times this week it was almost as awful as East- Enders - a horrible thing to say, I know, but true. These storylines were clumsy and unconvincing.
Let's start with Danny Baldwin (professional Cockney wideboy) and his wife Frankie ("Fur-rank" as he calls her aptly).
After months of understandable resistance, Frankie finally started sleeping with her stepson Jamie ("Jaymay" as she calls him). Here's what was wrong with this plotline.
1. I just didn't believe Jamie would fancy Frankie - regardless of the minor detail that she is his muvver.
2. I just didn't believe Frankie would fancy Jamie - not when the "35-year-old" trout has been looking after him since she was his 17-year-old babysitter.
3. I'm not sure I believe ANYONE would fancy either of them. With her tarty fur coat, dishpan hands and slap, Frankie is mutton dressed as lamb. Of all the people working in Roy's Rolls, Frankie is the least brainy or charismatic.
As for Jamie, he looks like a gormless young tramp. In serious scenes, his frowning reaches such epic proportions, he looks like an ape puzzled by shiny objects. He can't even brush his hair the right way.
4. The on-screen chemistry between actors Debra Stephenson and Rupert Hill has been so nonexistent they still look nothing like lovers.
And there were other problems too besides plausibility.
The fight Danny and Jamie had in the canal should have been the story's climax. Instead Danny's misery (and ours) dragged on with the two of them sitting on the viaduct like two Cockney Humpty Dumptys.
And who were we meant to feel sorry for in this story?
Danny - who ripped off his Alzheimer'sridden old dad to get the factory and then betrayed his wife and son by having an affair with Leanne?
Jamie - who in his dad's words "took the most precious thing in my life"? No not the factory..
Or Frankie - a coarse, screeching old bag who seems horribly untroubled by the fact that she is sleeping with a boy who is legally her son?
Whatever, Danny signed over his car, his flat and the factory to Jamie and headed off (on foot) into the darkness, leaving the show with only the three bimbo Baldwins.
Like the feckless Adam Barlow before him, Jamie is too thick to run a van let alone a factory. His advice, "Don't do anything stupid, Dad!" was a bit rich, coming from him.
Likewise when Frankie announced she was going to Spain to see their son Warren to "break it to him gently" about her and Jamie, your first thought was, "Good luck with that, Frank."
The show had SOME plusses. Lip-licking lizard Charlie and Tracy are ticking along evilly, the Connors are good and Norris's turn as a vigilante in his night-vision goggles a la Hannibal Lecter was more like Corrie of old.
Sadly, like Mike's Alzheimer's and Claire's post-natal depression, the story of Cilla's cancer is not.
This was a classic tactic of a soap going about-face and trying to squeeze some token sympathy out of a character who has always been thoroughly vile. (See also Johnny Allen, Pauline Fowler, Frank Butcher among others.)
Les is a lovable rogue. Cilla is not. In fact Les would be better off with the voracious, virtually naked Yana.
Cilla is great as a selfish, vulgar, unfaithful chav and neglectful mother. Now she's got cancer. My reaction? Good.
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